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Posted by ~P~ on 04/11/06 00:44
Copyright is NOT a two way street.
If you think that the content creators, of any copywritten material, feel
for one moment that you have any rights beyond reading their books or
watching their movies, or looking at their photographs, you are entirely
incorrect.
Licensing, by copyright holders is very strict and can be setup by those
holders in almost any way they wish so that their content is protected.
While you clearly don't agree with this, it is NOT going away, and is most
definitely going to be more and more severe, not less. Unless all people
agree to stop buying a certain product, you better believe it won't go away.
Anyone who owns a HD disc player, should have zero problems playing any
legally purchased discs on it. Likewise, if they purchased it legally they
should have no problem selling it.
As to this statement:
"Because it may not play in another drive (locked to particular
hardware -- maybe at the same time there's all that fancy-ass Java
stuff going on?), and therefore it would be useless."
This is just flat out incorrect. No discs will be locked to any player
whatsoever. If you have a single FACT on this, great, but really, the
continued scare tactics for a product that doesn't exist? Just don't buy
it, but cripes - stop lying and making things up off the top of your head to
justify your hatred.
"Karyudo" <karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me> wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:27:14 -0400, "~P~" <bmxtrix2005@cox.net> wrote:
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>"Karyudo" <karyudo_usenet@yahoo.com.remove.me> wrote in message
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>On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:20:14 -0400, "~P~" <bmxtrix2005@cox.net> wrote:
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>>>...like being able to make backups, play the disc anywhere you
>>>want on any equipment you want, and to sell the disc to someone else
>>>any time you want.
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>Backups are not legally possible with DVD or VHS at the commercial level
>and
>never has been. VHS has Macrovision which prevents duplication and DVD has
>encryption.
And yet, copyright law does allow you to make a legal backup! VHS did
not always have Macrovision, I'm pretty sure it's never been illegal
to circumvent Macrovision, and until the DMCA was passed, it wasn't
illegal to remove CSS encryption, either. I guess it's still legal to
remove region coding, but who knows how long that will last? And will
it even be possible with the "self-healing" firmwares planned for
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray?
>You may not play your DVD is a CD player or VHS or Laser Disc deck...
That sentence doesn't make any sense as written, but I'll assume
you're saying you can't play a DVD in anything but a DVD player.
You're wrong: it is possible to play a DVD in a DVD-ROM drive. Well,
it used to be, anyway.
In yet another anti-consumer move, the powers that be will likely not
let you play your newfangled discs in computer-based drives. Windows
Vista already doesn't support RPC-1 DVD-ROM drives, for example, which
are pretty much key for playing legally-purchased titles from other
regions. Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have provision for the disc to "fix"
any non-spec firmware in your player. So whose drive/computer/player
is it, anyway?
>You can sell the disc at any time you want to anyone you want... why would
>you not be able to?
Because it may not play in another drive (locked to particular
hardware -- maybe at the same time there's all that fancy-ass Java
stuff going on?), and therefore it would be useless. Or, it may be
illegal to sell the disc, because you don't have a license to sell the
contents of the disc. The content-providing industry doesn't want you
to be able to sell your viewed copy of "Gigli" to another sucker; they
want to be the only purveyors of said junk.
>So many people just have some bad information about the technology it blows
>me away.
What blows me away is that more people aren't complaining about their
rights -- yes, RIGHTS! -- being eroded by shady business practices of
big media. Copyright is a two-way street, but the content industry is
laying out big "severe tire damage" spikes on the consumers' side!
>Though, I do agree that you have every right to be nervous about
>it and as such, should wait to make any purchases if this is a problem. I
>strongly suggest others do as well. I know that I have a problem taking a
>gamble on all of it, but I like some decent gaming and my PS2 has treated
>me
>well, so I'll get a PS3 and have Blu-ray and be happy and protected no
>matter what happens.
Nothing personal, but I hope your PS3's Blu-Ray drive is but an
artifact of cultural history within a year. Sort of like my MiniDisc
player. Or that D-VHS machine I never got around to buying.
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