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Posted by Bible John on 04/16/06 04:48
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1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
you, with meekness and fear
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
Founder and director
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
news:1243i9gebnjup64@corp.supernews.com...
> "Bible John" wrote ...
>>I have a nice analog JVC camcorder. I know this camera cost about $700
>>back in 2001. Its okay,
>> and certainly captures far superior video than any Palm Pilot, cell phone
>> or digital camera. But anyways it uses VHS-C tapes, which can be easily
>> played on my VCR with a VHS adaptor. Since VHS tapes are fear cheaper
>> than VHS-C, I think I want to give people tapes rather than VHS-C tapes.
>
> Most people have DVD players now. You can get a
> reasonably nice one for $50
As do I. I have 3 DVD players.
>
>> But I am afraid, if I do this, and then erase over the VHS-C tape, the
>> quality will deteriate. This seems to be what happens in many, but not
>> all tapes. Will VHS-C have this effect, or will it not?
>
> Yes, all tapes will wear out from repeated recording/
> playing/erasing, etc. At least analog tapes will gradually
> deteriorate so you can get some "advance notice" when
> it gets too bad to continue to use. With digital, you may
> never know when you have reached the limit until you
> record something and then find it won't play back.
>
>> Okay on to primary question.
>>
>> One day when I get the money I will buy myself a digital camcorder that
>> will use Mini DV, DVD, or a hard drive.
>
> Avoid DVD if you want to do any subsequent editing, etc.
>
This is what I hear. But this may change in time.
>> Does anyone have a digital camcorder and what are your experiences with
>> it on your Macs? Can it play full frame video on your Mac?
>
> I don't have a Mac, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't
> play back full frame. Even if they are half as good as
> their fans claim they are.
>
>> I cant imagine the file sizes of such video,
>
> DV video is 13.7 GB per hour. MPEG video is a fraction of that size, if
> you can live with the trade-
> offs.
MPEG is light years ahead of the Windows Media format that my Palm Zire 72
uses. And even more light years ahead of crappy cell phone video.
But then again Zire 72 movies can be posted to the web, and MPEG videos
cannot without irritating many people (even those over broadband).
>
>> and in my case there is no way such video would fit on my dinky 30GB hard
>> drive, with only 6GB free on my ibook G4. I think I would need to
>> attach my USB 2.x 80GB drive.
>
> Even 80GB is a bit tight depending on what you want
> to do. Fortunately, hard drives are very cheap. These
> days you can't hardly even buy a drive as small as 80GB.
>
Too bad I bought it back in July of 2005.
>> With digital tapes, DVD's or hard drives, can you
>> erase and the record over without a lowering of quality?
>
> MiniDV tapes cost ~$5 each. if what you are shooting is
> not worth $5/hour, you shouldn't subject your camera to
> the wear and tear of even turning it on.
>
> The mini-DVD cameras *may*(?) use re-writable
> discs, but the MPEG compression is barely adequate
> for casual distribution and doesn't hold up to any kind
> of post-production (editing, titles, effects, etc.) very
> well. Unless you have a considerably lower standard
> of quality than most of us.
My friend Brian does video editing, and for whatever reason he's attached to
his old Amiga computer. He always has to convert the video with his capture
card, but the videos do come out well.
Check out one video. This video was produced back in 2001.
http://johnw.freeshell.org/JWPaul.com/
I am happy with the quality of that analog camera I bought for $700 in 2001.
>
> Hard drives, of course, can be re-written hundreds/
> thousands of times with no downside.
>
> Richard Crowley in rec.video.production
They made video cameras that write to a hard drive?
I heard there was a camcorder that wrote to a memory card, but I cant
imagine how one would capture 60 minutes of video on any memory card sold
today.
John
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