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Posted by P.C. Ford on 09/26/45 11:46
On Mon, 1 May 2006 19:57:03 +0100, mv@movingvisionco.uk wrote:
>In message <125c6sjokkd4183@corp.supernews.com>, Richard Crowley
><rcrowley@xpr7t.net> writes
>>
>>"Martin Heffels" <mot@sneeuw.nl> wrote in message
>>news:av4c521ri7jb2hg408aofkjr7h9rkmilg5@4ax.com...
>>> On 1 May 2006 06:53:27 -0700, "soundwhiz" <cineaudio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>any where in africathe story is much the same ,difference in degrees
>>>>
>>>>lawlessness
>>>
>>> Truely ignorant words. Sorry to say that.....
>>> There are only a few troublespots in Africa. Most of the continent
>>>has no
>>> wars. To call all of South-Africa lawless, is very ignorant.
>>
>>And your perspective is what?
>>How long have you lived in Africa?
>
>
>However it's true
>that for a self important Westerner there are many parts of that
>continent best steered clear of, but more often due to the bad vibes and
>presumption of that type of Westerner, who by a mere caprice of fate was
>born into the lucky quarter of the world and is yet to have a clue about
>the virtues of those who don't conform to their own trivial concepts of
>moral worth. God help us.
I can not speak for the others, but I hardly resemble the strawman you
built. I spent February of last year in Egypt...a place considered by
some not to be a prudent place to visit. I travelled in definite
non-tourist style. Also, one of the guys I mentioned having negative
comments about South Africa is an accomplishment "non touristy"
traveller. He travelled down the Congo River in the bilge of a barge.
I have no doubt that one can be treated well in villages of South
Africa. I, too, recognize the grace that the people of Africa have
after having survived the predations of the colonial powers, in
particular your country.
As to your point that the US is a dangerous country too, I can only
agree. I certainly felt safer on the streets of Cairo than I would in
certain places in the US. However, the murder rate is 700% higher
(that's seven hundread percent higher--look it up) in South Africa
than in the US.
The original poster asked what the conditions are in South Africa are.
To confuse the issue by complaining about attitudes of Western
tourists and crime rates in the US does him no good.
I don't think I'd take my family there.
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