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Posted by John on 06/02/06 22:03
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> "John" <Johnnospam@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:XvydnWMmCbzlBh3ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> NoNoBadDog! wrote:
>>> I
>>> "Ralf Hutter" <yowsa@mindblown.net> wrote in message
>>> news:t8pv7296i2g4avbimhet7q0gksp0lornhe@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 03:28:06 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
>>>> <Diespammers@notme.com> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I am retired military.
>>>>
>>>> And I am an employed American. We're paying for your retirement,
>>>> which is more than we'll get, thanks to this VERY expensive and
>>>> seemingly pointless waste of good American lives.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> I earned my retirement, same as everyone else. I earned for it
>>> through pain and suffering, blood sweat and tears. I earned it
>>> through fighting in two wars. I earned it by being uprooted and
>>> moved all over the world on a continual basis. I earned it by doing
>>> what needed to be done. I am also paying for my own retirement. The
>>> part of my retirement that is not covered under my disability,
>>> I pay taxes on. I paid a portion of each of my active duty
>>> paychecks into the system for my retirement. You pay into it too,
>>> but it does not pay me. I paid for my own reitrement. It is money
>>> that I paid in ever the course of my service. Your choice of
>>> emplyment and retirement benefits are yoru concern,
>>> not mine.
>>
>> In your time of hard honest work were there guys like Ken Lay around?
>> http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/02/enron_insure.html
>>
>> Did your medical benefits cut so deep as to force you to chose
>> between health and food?
>> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/597092781?ltl=1149278670
>> Were you or others having their pensions swindled out from
>> underneath by policies from Government that encouraged this?
>> http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006603080339
>>
>> Were you wages continually going up or down?
>> http://www.itpaa.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1971
>>
>> Do you feel betrayed by your government? Many do and rightly so
>> wouldn't you think?
>>
>>
>
> You are awfully good at complaining and pointing fingers...
>
> How would you fix it? What programs would you dreate to pay for
> evrything that every one wants, and no one wants to pay for?
>
> How would you decide which programs get funded and which programs get
> cut?
To begin with there is the issue of tax cuts in favor of those that need it
the very least. Never before have there been tax cuts while asking congress
for more funds to pay for a war that was supposed to pay for itself with
free Iraqi oil subsadies. There is not extra money to go around meaning that
cuts in programs have to be made. These are to many to list here and now.
Would take more time than you or I have.
>
> None of your links are applicable.
Please explain this.
>
> I have never had to choose between medical treatment or food. I have
> 100% medical coverage, and all of my medications are covered, too. They
> don't cost a thing, other than 23 years of my life, being
> severely wounded twice in combat, and my wife and kids neverhaving
> any stabiltity in their lives.
I am truely happy for you and sad as you make my point that others now and
in the future will not be so lucky. This counrty owes it future to China.
>
> The references to Ken Lay and others are not relevant; the extent of
> human greed knows no boundaries; people get away with what they can
> get away with. The fix is simple; a cap on corporate salaries and a
> reasonable retirement package. No single poerson is worth the kind
> of money some of these types are drawing.
Again you insist on backing my claims. Thank you very much.
>
> As for Enron and others who lost their pensions...it is sad that they
> were duped, but the warning bells were going off long before the
> crash. No one bothered to investigate...they just went on believing
> what they were being told by Enron execs. they have no one but
> themselves to blame. Some tried to stop the train wreck, but they
> were fired.
Kenny boy is going to jail for pretending that Enron was doing fine while it
was not. People were duped and you seem to be happy at this.
> My wages continue to go up. I have never once in my life had to
> accept a pay cut. I work for a reasonable wage, and I am not so
> greedy as to demand more. I understand the basic tenets of our
> economy, and I live comfortably. I do not desire to have something I
> can't earn honestly or do not deserve. I don't want something for
> nothing. I do not erxpect to have anything handed to me on a silver
> platter. I do not feel I am owed anyhting other that what I have
> earned.
You are again saying what I am trying to point out. The future of this
country will not follow your path. Why this not making any sence to you is
beyond me. I am on your side but you seem to want to hate someone while I
feel grief for my great grandchildren and the future debt incurred do to
total fiscal irresponsibility.
>
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