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Posted by NoNoBadDog! on 10/05/21 11:49
"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:44831115.15391078@news-server.houston.rr.com...
> On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:19:31 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
> <Diespammers@notme.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't watch wingnut conspiracy DVDs that are based on supposition and
>>selective truth.
>
> Then you will not learn the truth.
>
> The DVDs I referenced are not wingnut conspiracy. In fact the
> producers went out of their way to avoid any of that.
>
> The leftist Sundance Film Festival does not give out awards to wingnut
> conspiracies. The leftist Washington Post does not give favorable
> reviews to wingnut conspiracies. You are on the wrong side of this
> issue when you continue to indict the films as wingnut conspiracies.
>
> +++
> This controversial documentary about the stand-off between an
> unorthodox Christian group - the Branch Davidians, under the
> leadership of the young, charismatic David Koresh - and the FBI and
> ATF in Waco, Texas, from February to April 1993 presents a different
> spin on the events from that of the United States government, which
> held that the Branch Davidians set the fire that destroyed their
> compound, and killed the vast majority of them, on April 19, 1993.
> Using footage from the 51 day siege, from the congressional hearings
> afterwards, from people involved in all aspects of the siege, and from
> experts technical, psychological, and religious, the movie suggests
> that the Branch Davidians were not a cult, but a valid religious group
> practicing under First Amendment freedoms who fell victim to first the
> ineptitude of an ATF raid designed to garner the agency positive
> attention and later the cruel, methodical work of the FBI, who
> over-saw the murder of the Davidians and then quickly covered it up.
> +++
>
> +++
> What happened at the Branch Davidian compound in Mt. Carmel, Texas, in
> 1993? Why did 4 federal agents and 86 civilians lose their lives? The
> powerful documentary Waco: The Rules of Engagement asks these and many
> other difficult questions, and the answers are deeply disturbing, even
> for the most cynical. Using interviews, news footage, testimony before
> Congress, and infrared photographic analysis, the film relentlessly
> chips away at the government's story that David Koresh and his
> followers were a dangerous cult involved in strange sex and drug
> practices who were preparing to slaughter their neighbors and that
> they immolated themselves la Jonestown, rather than give themselves
> up peacefully. Nearly every element of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
> and Firearms' and the FBI's cover-up is exposed as fraudulent and the
> viewer is left wondering when, if ever, justice will finally be
> served. Warning: There are a few minutes of extremely graphic footage
> of the burnt bodies of the Davidians; though this is sickening, it
> seems less so than the tragic mistakes made by law enforcement
> officials.
> +++
>
> +++
> Shaking the foundation of democracy, the shocking revelations behind
> the tragic series of events outside Waco, Texas that killed four
> federal agents and 76 men, women and children of the Branch Davidian
> religious sect has finally been exposed. Winner of an Academy-Award
> nomination in light of its incredible discoveries, Waco: The Rules of
> Engagement brings forth devastating evidence of federal law
> enforcement gone tragically wrong. It dares to suggest the ATF
> provoked war with a group whose apocalyptic religious beliefs and
> rumored manufacturing of illegal weapons made them easy targets for an
> inevitable abuse of its members' civil and human rights. Waco: The
> Rules of Engagement will change forever the way the world thinks and
> talks about the tragedy at Waco and, most importantly, it will renew
> our commitment to the basic precepts of tolerance and freedom upon
> which American society is built.
> +++
>
>>You will never convince me (or any rational person)
>
> You do not speak for rational people. You are a statist bigot.
>
>>that the US government
>>had a plan to kill David Koresh and those inside the compound. It was not
>>intended to end the way it did.
>
> The JBGTs expected the Davidians to cave in. But they made a mistake -
> they forgot that the Davidians were Texans - and Texans do not cave in
> to JBGTs without a fight.
>
> After the fiasco had gone on too long, the govt devised a plan to make
> it all go away. For one thing, attorney Dick DeGuerin was getting
> close to the truth and he had the camera on him.
>
> So the JBGTs injected highly flammible CS gas into Mt. Carmel. Then
> the facility went up in flames. Then they immediately destroyed all
> evidence of what happened by bulldozing the entire scene.
>
> In documents acquired thru the Freedom of Information Act for the
> wrongful death lawsuit, it was clearly shown that the Pentagon played
> a major role in the Waco Massacre. This was published in the Dallas
> Morning News at the time of the trial. The documents showed that the
> Chiefs of Staff were briefed daily on the situation.
>
> You can wallow in your ignorance if you want, but most people are not
> buying it.
>
>
> --
>
> "There is much to be said in favor of
> the Internet. By giving us the opinions
> of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch
> with the ignorance of the community."
The only ignorance to wallow in is that which you bring to this thread.
You cannot believe that the Davidians are completely blameless in this.
What happened at Waco was a tragic, unfortunate accident...nothing more,
nothing less.
Bobby
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