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Re: SAY NO TO BLURAY

Posted by Roy L. Fuchs on 10/07/84 11:49

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 01:52:10 -0700, "Alpha" <none@none.net> Gave us:

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>"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
>news:lqp78250e6ts0ig3fn5tsblvh3kvjathh2@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:47:24 -0700, "Alpha" <none@none.net> Gave us:
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>>>"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
>>>news:f9n782dhsd8vaodvn4166av77q9g5u5kvr@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:53:26 -0500, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> Gave
>>>> us:
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>>>>>Roy L Fuchs wrote on [Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:52:17 GMT]:
>>>>>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:18:45 -0500, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> Gave
>>>>>> us:
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>>>>>>>Roy L Fuchs wrote on [Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:41:21 GMT]:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:25:55 -0500, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>> Gave
>>>>>>>> us:
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>>>>>>>>>Roy L Fuchs wrote on [Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:04:36 GMT]:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:13:20 -0500, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Gave
>>>>>>>>>> us:
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>>>>>>>>>>>GMAN wrote on [Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:37:28 GMT]:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <v25582h3c6m7r44rvprjb5fe4i3bf0hnre@4ax.com>, Roy L.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuchs <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 03:53:11 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you@somehost.somedomain.aus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Your Name Here=Harvey) Gave us:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In article <t153825qs0cn77n47nlem5ob3k38rt6auj@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> KimbaWLion@noemail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"wandrinandz" <news@dvdlibrary.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If more buyers would support HD-DVD and say no to Blu-Ray,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we would not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have a format war which is damaging the dvd industry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Join the HD-DVD Support Group over at www.hd-dvd.uk.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm saying NO to both of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once the PS3 drops down in price - then there would be a large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Blu-Ray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what? They are STILL going to lose the battle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like when the PS2 killed off the Dreamcast, because it could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DVDs straight away, and the Dreamcast couldn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahaha.. what a joke, and what a weak battle for a small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(relatively) market. THIS MARKET IS GLOBAL, and huge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HD DVD will win. Already has, in fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Good question, since the overwhelming majority of people right now
>>>>>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>>>>know or care about either format.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's bullshit. The majority of folks that WOULD be interested
>>>>>>>>>> already are. Many more come on board every day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The folks that would be interested is a very small subset of DVD
>>>>>>>>>owners
>>>>>>>>>right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Audiophiles and videophiles are definitely up on the latest and
>>>>>>>>>> greatest, and they always have been.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, and most DVD owners are neither. The war is to win these people
>>>>>>>>>over, and most of them don't care.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The industry will be fine right now with the market demographic of
>>>>>>>> all laser disc types and those DVD owners that became videophiles
>>>>>>>> after getting on board with DVD. I think that market is much bigger
>>>>>>>> than you apparently do. So do the manufacturers of our consumer
>>>>>>>> electronics goods... obviously.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think the manufacturers have misjudged and HD, whatever the format,
>>>>>>>will be a very slow take off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That may well be true, but the same things were said about DVD when
>>>>>> it came out, and manufacturers won't look the other way and lose money
>>>>>> twice in the same manner. We make them enough billions now that you
>>>>>> can be sure that the big players will all be on the HD DVD bandwagon.
>>>>>
>>>>>The benefits of DVD over VHS were far greater than the benefits of HD
>>>>>over DVD. Laserdiscs were always a small market, were too big and bulky,
>>>>>and were around in a market where rental was the norm. Now that people
>>>>>buy TV series within months of the finale, and movies within a couple
>>>>>weeks of it leaving the theatre, the benefits of HD are still very
>>>>>small.
>>>>
>>>> If an HD title hit the streets in the same "two week" time frame as
>>>> a regular DVD release, I am quite sure that the form factor will be
>>>> popular.
>>>>
>>>> Given the choice, from what I have seen of standard DVD performance
>>>> on my HD HDMI set, I would take the HD release any day. The
>>>> difference is significant enough for that to be my choice, so I am
>>>> sure it will be for any other true videophile type as well. For the
>>>> same price.
>>>>
>>>> So, any dope with a decent sized library of discs and an HD monitor
>>>> will take note of the difference.
>>>>
>>>> The format will make inroads, and will displace DVD as a result.
>>>>
>>>> Even though I formally stated that DVD will last for another twenty
>>>> years or so, I am not still convinced that is true. I now feel that
>>>> high resolution imagery is enough of a change to kill off the poorer
>>>> format.
>>>>
>>>> And it will...
>>>
>>>High Definition will take over...but not in the Blu Ray or HD DVD formats.
>>>
>> Tell us, oh Alpha Guru.. what is the emerging format?
>
>Holographic....maybe. The real question is when will a format be 2+ fold
>superior in all aspects to the previous.
>
Maybe? Maybe that is fucking retarded as holographic data storage
is still years off, regardless of the fact that it is being worked on
today.

Maybe a standard single track style optical medium like that which we
have today will have a sufficient enough data rate to give us a high
enough resolution picture with all the same sound capacity that
theater has.

Oooops... too late... we are already there.

D'oh!

 

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