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Posted by ZnU on 06/10/06 05:26
In article <1149862513.890308.195230@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> > In article <1149716394.150508.39230@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ZnU wrote:
> > > > In article <s4Yeg.15439$Zc7.204783@wagner.videotron.net>,
> > > > NRen2k5 <nomore@email.com> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > Of course, what some other companies would like to do is get into
> > > > Apple's existing value networks;
> > >
> > > WTF!?!? What value networks? What are you talking about?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_network
> >
> > Think iTunes + iPod + accessories + etc.
>
> I'm thinking of an open source encyclopedia that prints whatever
> anybody posts. I'm thinking of self-serving corporate hype. I'm
> thinking meaningless marketing talk consisting of annoying
> non-sequitirs fleeing from an idea or a reasoned answer.
You're not thinking very clearly.
> > > > to have their own music sales services benefit from the iPod, or
> > > > their own devices benefit from iTunes, so they don't have to start
> > > > from scratch and build an entire integrated solution themselves.
> > >
> > > They could just sell CDS/MP3 players that require no software
> > > solutions at all, and can do so without haviong to start with
> > > anything.
> >
> > Apple sells an easy-to-use, simple, well-designed all-in-one solution.
> > If other vendors offered a user experience similar to Apple, and the
> > iPod had 80% market share, you could maybe say it was just a fad. But
> > the truth is, people buy iPods because Apple offers something you
> > *can't* get elsewhere.
>
> Obviously wrong because your market-speak is equally descriptive of
> CD/MP3 players
You're actually saying CD/MP3 players are better than iPods? They're
significantly larger, hold less music (unless you feel like carrying
around 90 CDs, to match the capacity of a 60 GB iPod), and have vastly
inferior user interfaces. It's also far more awkward to change your
music around, since you have to actually burn new discs.
> it's not an all-in-one solution because you need to buy the
> accessories to keep your iPod working - a skin, a screen-cover, a
> recharger.
You're being pretty silly now. That's like saying if one car vendor
sells an entire car, and another just sells the body, and lets you buy
the seats and the engine separately, that there's no difference, because
after all, you still have to buy the gas separately for the first car.
Anyway, Apple includes a little case (at least with the nano) and iPods
charge off of USB.
> Rechargeable batteries are nice, but they don't last forever, and
> those on an iPod are much harder to replace than a couple of
> penlights that will work in a host of devices and can be had
> anywhere. Will an Ipod work w/o Itunes? With an MP3-CD player, all
> you need is your computer's file manager. TRo say that iPod offers
> an all-in-one really means that Apple has created a small industry of
> unnecessary goods and services around the iPod, goods and services
> one wouldn't need without the iPod, an entire market that exists
> merely to serve the iPod rather than enhance the listening experience
> of those who buy them. The point is that while you can't get iPod
> features elsewhere, you CAN get practically the commensurate
> experience at a fraction of the cost.
You're going off on tangents again.
> > That you're not interested in what Apple is offering, and don't
> > really get it, is obvious.
>
> Sure, must be my fault - always blame the customer.
Um, sorry, you're the one who's trying to claim millions of happy iPod
customers have been taken in by baseless hype.
[snip]
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"Those who enter the country illegally violate the law."
-- George W. Bush in Tucson, Ariz., Nov. 28, 2005
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