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Posted by FatKat on 06/12/06 02:26
Gary Tait wrote:
> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in news:1149862513.890308.195230
> @y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Obviously wrong because your market-speak is equally descriptive of
> > CD/MP3 players - it's not an all-in-one solution because you need to
> > buy the accessories to keep your iPod working - a skin, a screen-
> cover,
> > a recharger.
>
> You "need" similar accessories whatever player solution you choose.
I've never had to buy a screen-protector to keep my screen readable;
the frame of my player is sufficiently scratch proof as well. I can
use rechargeable or disposable batteries depending on my choice, not
Apple's.
>
> > Rechargeable batteries are nice, but they don't last
> > forever, and those on an iPod are much harder to replace than a couple
> > of penlights that will work in a host of devices and can be had
> > anywhere.
>
> Not that hard to replace for the technically invlined,
AA batteries are easier for everybody to replace. Cheaper too. And
that's putting aside the initial pricetag of each player.
> plus one can use external battery packs.
Or you can get the CD player, which carries its batteries internally.
I haven't seen an external pack on a CD player since 1987.
>
> > Will an Ipod work w/o Itunes?
>
> There are certain 3rd party apps known to work with iPod.
Whereas the CD player can work without resort to any apps whatsoever.
Except for that crowd that thinks that Windows file manager is a 3rd
party app.
>
> > With an MP3-CD player, all
> > you need is your computer's file manager.
>
> For the simple act of putting MP3s on CDRs or a Flash player, yes.
>
> But you have to get the MP3s somehow, and that means some sort of
> ripper/encoder, or and online store (some requiring their own app), and
> if DRM is involved, its player.
did somebody say P2P? Okay, piracy aside, DRM is likely going to be an
issue for everybody. However, I've manages to rip & tear for years
already - there's tons of existing software on the internet. What does
iTunes really offer you? That is, if I didn't own an iPod, would I
want iTunes anyway? Thing is, neither answer makes the case for iPod -
if iTunes was so great with an iPod, I'd just integrate it with my
existing player; if it wasn't, then iTunes wouldn't be any reason to
get an iPod. Everybody I know whose into music already has stacks of
CD's because they've already gotten most of the music
they want - ITMS adds nothing for them, and iPod even less.
>
> > TRo say that iPod offers an
> > all-in-one really means that Apple has created a small industry of
> > unnecessary goods and services around the iPod, goods and services one
> > wouldn't need without the iPod, an entire market that exists merely to
>
> They aren't unnecssary, but thay are optional also. And if you are
> enterprising or can shop, you can make you own, or buy cheaper
> unlicensed accessories.
Or use an existing alternative that obviates the need for those
accessories, or I already have, or....
>
> Unecessary to the marketplace, no, as Apple has advanced personal media
> players from a geek device to a lifestyle (mostly in marketing mind
> you), possibly creating a place for the cheaper players.
There's no argument from me that Apple has achieved in the marketing
world something like the Wright Brother's & the formula for Plutonium.
It's a massive achievement on the excutive side. I'm just concerned
with whether iPod offers the consumer any reasonably comparable leap in
player technology.
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