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Posted by Roy L. Fuchs on 06/13/06 20:27
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 05:42:01 -0500, "Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> Gave us:
>On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:34:54 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:11:23 -0500, "Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> Gave us:
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>>>Did those devices run a PC OS? Did they have a PC amount of RAM? Did they
>>>have PC connectors to the drives they ran?
>>
>> No, stupid fucktard. they ran motor controllers or industrial
>> process controls. No PC i/o or anything else, you stupid fuck.
>
>So, no consumer devices then.
>
>I'm not even sure what your point is. The i80186 was also used in PCs,
No, it wasn't They (IBM) went straight from the XT and AT PC to the
i80286. There were no i80186 PCs out there. Any you find were and
are a fluke.
> so
>it was a PC chip in addition to whatever other uses it had.
The point is that it was to be a PC chip. That never happened, so
Intel sold it as a microcontroller for industry so as not to lose out
on the investment.
You need to BONE UP, boy. You really know very little about a LOT
of things, and you run to google every time you get in an argument,
then come back here spouting links as if YOU are some kind of
knowledgeable person.
You're a twit.
> Also, HD DVD
>players, in addition to having a Pentium 4 PC chip, a mobile PC chipset,
>and PC RAM, also has several PC i/o devices, like the IDE HD DVD drive and
>USB flash disk.
Don't forget the LAN port and the externally accessible USB ports.
All I have to do is plug in a USB wireless stick, and I don't even
need the hard wired ethernet port at that point.
> So if you're trying to argue that something without PC i/o
>isn't a PC, good job it's just a shame HD DVD doesn't meet that definition.
The funny thing is that it in now way shape or form functions like a
PC. The remote is NOT a keyboard, and neither are the play/function
menus accessible from the front panel keys. Those are standard
consumer product interface methodologies.
The update process is entirely managed in the background so it has
no resemblance to a PC either.
>>>From what I can find, they weren't called "PCs" because they were called
>>>other types of computers, like servers:
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>
>You forgot the link:
>http://temperature.tu-plovdiv.bg/publications/CS05_kakanakov_spasov.pdf
> The experiment is made on the IPC@Chip? from Beck as a target system
> (server). It has a NE2000 compatible network interface card, built-in
> card driver, Real-time oper-ating system and embedded TCP/IP stack.
> Its core is an I80186 microprocessor with 512MB RAM and 512MB Flash
> drive. The server side code is written in C and uses op-erating
> system?s APIs for creating and manipulating sockets
How many thousands did they manufacture or sell? Well, boy?
>It's odd that when I google for 'i80186 "motor controllers"', nothing comes
>up. Likewise with 'i80186 "industrial process controls"'. Yet, when I
>google for 'i80186 server," several hundred hits come up.
Since it is nowhere close to being the king in industrial
microcontrollers anymore, I'd say that it not even in use. There are
several that beat it out. Take the Pentium 4 mobile CPU, for
instance.
In the days before the ARM CPU and a wide array of other
microcontrollers, the i80186 was used in thousands of products by the
industry, and no, I am not talking about consumer products, you
fucking retard.
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