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Posted by Jay G. on 09/26/36 11:50
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 00:50:32 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:45:29 -0500, "Jay G." <Jay@tmbg.org> Gave us:
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-board_computer
>> "Single board computers... are most commonly used in industrial
>> situations where they are used in rack-mount format for process
>> control or *embedded* within other devices to provide control
>> and interfacing."
>
> You missed it AGAIN. It says that they are used FOR embedded
> applications. The SBC itself is NOT embedded. D'OH!
I emphasized it, but let me edit it down to the important bit:
"embedded within other devices to provide control and interfacing."
>> "Examples of stacking SBC form factors include PC/104, PC/104-Plus,
>> PCI-104, EPIC, and EBX; these systems are commonly available for use
>> in embedded control systems."
>
> FOR USE IN... maybe you'll get it after the hundredth time.
Well, if it's *in* an embedded device, wouldn't that make it embedded
itself?
>>http://www.intel.com/design/intarch/papers/ECX_form_factor.htm
>> "The small-form factor single board computer (SBC) has become
>> increasingly important in the embedded environment. While embedded
>> developers must confront space and thermal constraints, many embedded
>> systems require features and performance comparable with desktop
>> platforms. "
>
> Yes, and an SBC (a non-embedded device) is commonly used to control
> things in the embedded device arena. That STILL does not make it
> itself an embedded device.
Did you even read the pdf file on that site?
http://download.intel.com/design/intarch/papers/ECX_form_factor.pdf
"2.1 Overview
The Intel Embedded Compact Extended Form Factor (Intel® ECX Form Factor)
is an embedded, non-standard body, open standard, small form factor (SFF)
single board computer"
Even Intel calls a SBC embedded.
> It has to be specifically designed as such.
Such as this?
http://www.embeddedarm.com/news/netbsd_toaster.htm
"Using one of its rugged embedded TS-7200 single-board computers
housed inside the empty space of a standard 2 slice toaster,
Technologic Systems has designed a functional NetBSD controlled
toaster."
>>http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6449817972.html
>> "A Linux-oriented Intro to Embeddable Single Board Computers "
>
> EMBEDDABLE!
If something is embeddable, it's capable of being embedded, QED.
So, those are your responses to some of the links I quoted. What about the
quotes I provided you didn't comment on, or quote yourself?
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2189271708.html
"an introduction to this increasingly popular industry standard
for medium-sized, modularly expandable embedded single board computers."
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8498487406.html
"a brief survey of some of the many non-standardized tiny
embedded single board computers that are currently available"
http://www.winsystems.com/
"WinSystems manufactures embedded PC products for industrial
applications. Our products are categorized as Single Board Computers
( SBC ), PC104, PC/104-Plus, and STD Bus boards."
http://www.acrosser.com/products/index-embedded-board-computer.htm
"ACROSSER offers a comprehensive range of industrial PC104 (PC/104),
PCI104, PC104 Plus (PC/104+), 3.5", 5.25", LPX, Embedded ATX Embedded
Computer."
http://www.arcom.com/single-board-computers.htm
"Arcom offers a comprehensive range of industrial PC/104 (PC104),
EBX and Eurocard format embedded PC and single board computer products"
-Jay
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