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Posted by Crabby Patty on 07/12/06 00:14
I'm the American . . . comments posted in between.
"G8ASO <(.¿.)> © T" wrote:
>
> My reply to some American, is reposted below in case you missed it:-
>
> Judging by the use of the word "Shucks" which does not appear in an English
> dictionary, I would assume you are an American.
>
> In the mother country, our government has made a law whereby we are not
> responsible for any fraudulent transaction made on our credit cards, so,
> even if your extreme suggestions are remotely true, who cares? We get the
> music and a refund in the remote case of any fraud.
That's find for you -- not so fine for most other countries.
> I have been with Allofmp3 for a long time, and have a good relationship with
> them, sourcing music for them.
>
> They have never been anything but the most professional organisation I have
> ever dealt with, their website is one of the most well constructed on the
> web, and their software is excellent and well thought out. I also edit their
> on-line catalogue to remove spelling mistakes and correct some of the
> listings.
Very good. I've never accused them of being dishonest. I rather
suspect their payment provider (Chronopay) or a hacker, or maybe an
isolated dishonest employee. As I indicated, the percentage of people
with complaints is low, but a consistent story is told among those who
HAVE had problems. Basically, they paid AOMP3 with credit cards
(ostensibly going through Chronopay) and then had fraudulent charges
posted to their accounts, and investigation indicated the card numbers
came from a source in Russia.
> They no longer accept credit card payments, and haven't for months.
Interesting that CREDIT CARDS are listed on their site along with XROST
as the only methods of payment they accept.
> The Xrost service redirects you to a new URL which works, but they only
> accept Papal for a new PIN code, so another tier of protection there.
> All together, complete protection against fraud, and not a single complaint
> against them by any customer.
The XROST service does NOT redirect one to a new URL, whether that's
Chronopay or something else.
> I suggest you direct your anger at the profiteering companies such as ITunes
> etc., who overcharge for music, offer it in a silly format with reduced
> quality, and make it more expensive than actually buying the original work
> from Amazon!
> The same goes for all the other Western sellers of music on-line, they all
> vastly overcharge for the service and sell a substandard product for more
> than the cost of the original CD recording.
I'm not angry at AOMP3 -- I simply want to pressure them to allow a
secure and anonymous method to provide payment.
> The company has been investigated by the authorities and the website was
> suspended for about 2 weeks whilst this was carried out, it was found to be
> 100% legal, as was their other site based in Czechoslovakia.
It WAS shaken down by the Russian cops who almost certainly got paid
off. But you're also probably right that it IS entirely legal in
Russia. I have no issue with that. And I PERSONALLY have no issue with
using the service, AS LONG AS WHAT I'M DOING IS RECEIVING MUSIC FOR
WHICH I'VE ALREADY PAID, as I explained in my post. Otherwise, I
consider it to be unethical and I won't personally indulge in it.
For the benefit of others who look down their nose at those who PAY for
stuff that they can pirate for free via P2P software . . . the stuff you
can download for free is mostly 128Kbit stuff, is quite limited, and
often poor quality even when it's 192Kbit or better. If that's what you
like, that's fine, but I happen to be choosier and don't mind paying a
bit for good downloads. But I'm certainly NOT going to pay with a
credit card, and neither should anyone else.
CP
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