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Posted by Goro on 12/09/05 16:42
NunYa Bidness wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2005 06:37:27 -0800, "Goro" <evilninjax@yahoo.com> Gave us:
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> >
> >NunYa Bidness wrote:
> >> On 8 Dec 2005 07:07:11 -0800, needin4mation@gmail.com Gave us:
> >>
> >> >Well, if he dumped them now, he might get more money out of them. He
> >> >won't get near as much in two years when everything HD DVD BR is sorted
> >> >out. Of course, if it is more than two years, then well, I guess he
> >> >won't have a lot to watch for a while.
> >>
> >> If the current resolution of DVDs and *that* library of transfers
> >> took as many years as it did, how long do you think that
> >> re-transferring that same library to a new, higher res, longer capture
> >> time per frame masters will take? There were long lines at the
> >> companies which performed the original DVD library of transfers.
> >>
> >> You pretty much screw yourself pitching away titles that you don't
> >> have any clue as to when they will be appearing in the new format.
> >>
> >> Several years, it will take. Many titles will not even get a new
> >> transfer treatment as well. There will simply be a BR or whatever
> >> release of the same source media at no improvement in resolution.
> >> Count on it.
> >
> >This is too true. The first SEVERAL YEARS of BR, you will have to be
> >extremely careful when replacing a DVD with a BRDisc. Likely, you'll
> >have to check to see if it's from a HDMaster or whether it's from the
> >previous master. In the latter case, it's likely to look the same as
> >(or very close to) an upsampled 480p SD DVD (sans macroblocking,
> >htouhg, right?) Still, for newer movies and latter day movies (some
> >DVDs tout "From an HD master") it might be worth it. MIGHT.
>
> That is the thing. The telecine studios that do the current
> conversion will take even longer to do these conversions and the new
> movies always get to butt in line. This means that a LOT of current
> media will get re-released from the same masters. That means no
> improvement, or none that will be discernable.
This is also built-in obsolescence which they love so very much. it
actually encourages them to release a huge catalog with inferior
masters so that they can provide an IMPROVED IMAGE SE version later.
You know they had to be loving the Non-anamorphic to Anamorphic
crossover.
> >And then there's the diminsihing returns for (say) CASABLANCA and that
> >huge catalog of classic movies that i love.
>
> Having them already on Laser disc and DVD is quite fine. There are
> still a few DVDs I have yet to get as replacements for some of my
> laser disc titles. There are some that will never get released as
> well. Note that the frame stop access discs have yet to be replicated
> in DVD form. I have a laser disc of overhead US shots that I know
> will never get made on DVD as one can simply log on to google earth to
> get even closer views! But when I had that fucker... I had the
> shit... and was the only one that could show folks their house! I had
> many an eye popped moment... :-]
That is cool as hell. CAV LDs regardless of the material were
inherently eye-popping to most people who've only seen VHS.
My LD jewels were Crtierion Kurosawa THE BAD SLEEP WELL and
DODES'KA-DEN as well as FIRES ON THE PLAINS and THE BURMESE HARP.
ALso, a gold disc DRUNKEN MASTER II with original soundtrack and
ending, and FIST OF LEGEND. A few more rare ones and some of which
I've sold for quite a bit. I like HAVING them, but I rarely pull out
my CLD-79 to watch any of them.
> > Unlikely that (a) they'll
> >get to it anytime soon and (b) that it will look any better. But with
> >a higher bit rate and not macroblocking, maybe it would look better?
>
> I don't know... maybe. With the huge capacity involved, one would
> think that they could make discs with no compression at all.
That's what I'm hoping. Espeically in the case of TV shows. I mean, I
love video quality and the more prisitne the video, the better, BUT,
I've also goten used to watching Xvids on my tv. 720MB/hr. I do
notice the downgraded image quality, but for tv shows, i don't midn too
much. For movies... a bit more.
As an aside, you know there are actually a few DVD5s out there. Or at
least DVDs where the movie itself fits on a DVD5. Sony's STEAMBOY and
Dreamwork's TOKYO GODFATHERS dvds occur to me off the top of my head
and I believe also BELLEVILLE RENDEZVOUS. STEAMBOY in particular
deserves a Superbit-type full bitrate presentation.
While i'm at it, i'd like to see edge-enhancement go away or at least
be an option. There are some cases where it's quite noticeable and
irritating (yes, i have sharpness turned nearly all the way down on the
tv). THE RIGHT STUFF and Tetsuya Kumakawa's SLEEPING BEAUTY ballet are
notable, iirc.
> >> You are screwing yourself to dump a collection of discs because
> >> something new will be coming out. Especially when you don't even know
> >> the time line for it.
> >>
> >> DVDs are going to be around for quite a while, and they are quite
> >> high enough in resolution for nearly all applications.
> >
> >I agree with this sentiment.
>
> My collection was made for a reason. There is no reason or desire
> on my part to sell them for a fraction of what I paid for them in some
> lame effort to recoup some tid bit of cash to start my next
> collection.
Much of my collection is a "collection." I have my beloved Criterions.
Truffaut, Kurosawa, Bergman. There's alot of Foreign films which i
love, like Patrice Leconte stuff and the stuff from Korea. ANd some tv
shows that i love like FUTURAMA, BATMAN TAS, FREAKS AND GEEKS, etc.
But I've somehow managed to get a bunch of DVDs of movies that I've
only watched once and don't really want to watch again. I think i
bought them in a form of video-rental. I wanted to watch it so i
bought it instead of renting it (stupidly).
> I will start said collection (maybe). But my current libraries go
> nowhere.
DVD->BRD will be a very long migration process for me. It might be so
long that i endup on whatever format follows BRD.
-goro-
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