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Re: Pioneer 444 - still the best DVD Player?

Posted by Temsonic on 09/10/06 11:28

"kim" <ntscuser@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Temsonic" <dim.sp@miau.diolch> wrote in message
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>> "mo" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
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>> > Or not?
>> >
>> > My first and only DVD player (although that has more to do with the
>> > fact
> I
>> > watch almost nothing on my normal TV - all on PC)
>>
>> Wouldn't have thought so. I have a 575 which improves on the 444 specs by
>> having SACD and DVD-Audio compatibility, a 12-bit video DAC (444 has a
>> 10-bit DAC) and looking at an old review online, it lists the 444's
>> format
>> compatibility as: DVD/DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/VCD/MP3 playback. The
>> 575
>> also adds DVD+R/RW, DIVX, MPG, JPG, WMA and (I've heard but not tried it
>> myself) OGG audio.
>>
>> The 575 also has 5.1 phono outputs, mainly for the DVD-Audio and SACD
>> playback, but also has built in DD and DTS decoders. And the 656 improves
>> further still by having 2 Scarts. The 444 was a good player in its day
>> but
>> technology moves on.
>
> I have a 575 too, the mechanism sucks. It's noisy in standby mode and slow
> to respond to the remote.

Never had any problem with noise on my machine, it can whir a bit while it
first spins a disc up but once playback starts (including menus) it's no
louder than my previous player, a Panasonic A360. The only problem I've ever
had with slow remote response is when doing frame-by-frame slow
forwarding/rewinding, never in any other situation at all.

> What use is SACD and DVD-Audio when it's drowned
> by the sound of the motor?

It's not on my machine, at all. It honestly sounds like you have a dodgy
drive. The only complaint I do have about it's DVD-Audio and SACD
capabilities is the lack of individual speaker volume balancing on the
player, though this can be done on the amp.

> The Scart socket is a notoriously bad fit and the

Again, never noticed this at all. Connects to both my TV and PVR with no
problems, pic from both is excellent.

> RGB output is demonstrably inferior to earlier Pioneer players.
> Colors are smeared when playing the test patterns from Digital
> Video Essentials.

Never had another Pioneer player so can't comment, but its RGB output is
superior to my old Panasonic player, as is its S-Video output. The reds can
smear slighly on S-Video but haven't noticed this problem on RGB. Don't have
the Video Essentials disc, though I've set everything up as best I can with
THX tests and the like.

> Except for DivX and the like I prefer my old DV-430 which was an
> entry level player.

 

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