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Posted by Smarty on 10/07/06 05:27
Mr. Tapeguy,
I should emphasize that my Ulead suggestion is really for the amateur user,
and FCP is in a whole other league in terms of sophistication. I think a
full length feature demands a more sophisticated solution than Ulead Video
Studio 10 Plus, and apologize if I may have over-simplified the comparison.
Vegas 7 is a nice compromise in terms of price / performance and
functionality.
I do find it both surprising and disturbing that the FCP workflow goes so
slowly compared to Ulead, and this is my major criticism, especially
considering the cost difference. I especially like the Vegas and Ulead PC
solutions because I can easily bring mpeg content in and out, and use a lot
of really nice PC-based tools to work with intermediate products. The
insistence of Apple on creating and using closed and proprietary standards
personally bothers me, unless there are compelling offsets in price,
quality, performance, or other tangible benefits. IMHO, these do not exist,
and certainly not to justify a 3X or greater price disadvantage.
Smarty
"l e o" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:LIEVg.2631$0q2.1175@newsfe07.lga...
> Smarty wrote:
>> Mr Tapeguy,
>>
>> Ulead's $89 program lacks many features which FCP 5.1 provides, and more
>> advanced users can upgrade or buy Ulead's professional product for $300
>> or so which maintains the same speed but adds more features for advanced
>> editing.
>>
>> Despite being very limited compared to FCP in features, it does basic
>> editing and other things quite adequately, and contains many filters,
>> transitions, titling tools, overlay and alpha / greenscreen features as
>> well as pretty sophisticated audio tools, all considered. It makes really
>> excellent DVDs and HD DVDs (as well as all sorts of other mpeg2, mpeg4,
>> VCD, SVCD, ipod and other formats). Its' full screen preview and playback
>> just blows away FCP and Vegas, as does its' rendering speed. For a
>> beginner or someone on a limited budget, it just doesn't get any better
>> today. iMovieHD and a modest iMac would be a reasonably comparable Mac
>> alternative, but has the rendering speed penalty as well as way too much
>> Quicktime emphasis for my taste. Simple MPEG2 file handling is terrible
>> on this platform.
>>
>> My dual G5 came with Tiger, was delivered / installed with Final Cut
>> Studio Pro HD 5 from a clean install and has been upgraded with all
>> updates to both OSX and FCP HD Studio. It is just a slow machine,
>> producing high quality results with far too much expense and time
>> consumption. Having used FCP older versions on older hardware with
>> earlier (non Tiger) releases, this is indeed a much faster system than
>> those were......but it is still glacial compared to Ulead.
>>
>> Smarty
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mr. Tapeguy" <mr.tapeguy@pro-tape.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160148271.346034.28030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Smarty wrote:
>>>> I just have to throw my 2 cents in here, since I have been doing HDV
>>>> editing
>>>> since the day it was available..... I now have 4 systems in place, and
>>>> have
>>>> made a lot of comparisons and observations.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> That is really interesting info Smarty. How does the Ulead compare in
>>> features to the more expensive packages?
>>>
>>> By the way, you probably won't be using this as your primary solution
>>> but if you haven't upgraded to Tiger you should do so as well as
>>> crossgrade to FCP 5.x before the end of the year. It's cheap and will
>>> enhance performance dramatically.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> http://www.pro-tape.com
>
>
> Despite your push for Ulead Video, I really like using Vegas 7 for HDV
> editing. I think Vegas is the minimum system to do a feature length
> documentary. It works seamlessly with Sonic Foundry for sound editing.
> Don't forget multi-tracks. I don't think Ulead Video has it but I haven't
> really use it too intensively.
>
> Premiere Pro 2 is fine too and it works well with Photoshop/Illustrator
> files.
>
> Final Cut Pro is mainly for Mac users; sorry I don't see it's virtue
> except easy to find editors for serious works and lots of third party
> plugins. If you go with Mac, you really need to spend over $2500 for Mac
> Pro just to have the PCIe slots!!!!!!! You will find that expansion slot
> very useful - many [expensive] products from Blackmagic that will make HDV
> editing a better experience. But what a premium, a Dual 2 Core system can
> be gotten for $1000 with enough money left to invest on RAID hard drives
> and 4 GB memory etc.
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