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Posted by Smarty on 10/22/06 20:11
Thanks Scubajam for your independent confirmation of my own Ulead
experiences. Despite having a dual G5 Powermac with the latest Final Cut
Studio Pro HD here, I frequently find myself using Ulead Video Studio 10
Plus for HDV work as well as HD DVD authoring. I have been extolling the
virtues of Ulead HDV performance even before Version 10 came out, since the
HDV plug-in for Version 9 handled HDV very well with proxy files and very
fast rendering.
I am not especially impressed with Final Cut Pro, nor am I impressed with
the dual processor Mac, despite owning many Macs since their inception. I
entirely agree with the premise that spending $5K to do HDV editing is a big
waste of money when it can be done swiftly and very nicely for less than
one-fifth the price.
Smarty
"Scubajam" <jmcgauhey@usa.net> wrote in message
news:1161058626.187124.153020@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> I'm generally learning more than contributing on this forum, and I
> thank all for that.
>
> I've been using Ulead software for 5 years. Never could afford a MAC.
> Been shooting HDV for 1 year now on a Sony A1U, specializing in
> underwater video. (off topic: just returned from a great trip taking
> video of great white sharks in Mexico).
>
> Ulead makes several programs. Their two primary editing programs are
> Video Studio, now version 10, which is the amateur version, but as
> mentioned and I've heard from others, is a VERY good program, exp for
> HDV.
>
> I use Media Studio Pro 8, which is their latest pro version. Each
> timeline has up to 99 tracks of video, plus up to 99 tracks of audio,
> and you can actually put an unlimited number of timelines into a single
> project with the same 99 tracks of each. Their Smart Compositor is
> somewhat of an exclusive feature I'm told, and is very effective for
> opening and closing. Other than that, watch most any commercial film
> or TV show and you'll see simple cuts and crossfades. No fancy
> transitions to distract. One local pro uses a simple amateur editing
> program (only cuts and crossfades in editing)
> , then After Effects for titles and credits.
>
> The one feature MSP8 uses for HDV is proxy files. When you capture the
> HDV file and first load it onto a timeline, a proxy file is created.
> (this can take a while, however) The defaults are similar to DV, but
> you can set it for smaller resolution/screen size, etc. In essence,
> this creates a small file for editing that is a copy of the HDV file.
> So now most any 4 yr old or less computer can edit HDV in real time,
> using the lower res proxy file. It's great for emailing and
> collaborating. Scrubbing is in real time. All edits and effects are
> in real time on even a slow computer. I've got a reasonable dual core
> with 2 gig desktop, but even edit HDV on my 4 yr old laptop with
> external drive with no problems. The proxy file is really a clever
> idea. When you are finished editing, render process goes back to the
> original HDV file and renders to whatever you want.
>
> By the way, for testing on the cheap, Video Studio 10 will create a
> HD-DVD on a standard 4.7 gig DVD-R, playable on Toshiba and some other
> HD-DVD players. Only limitation is about 20 minutes time. Burn this
> on your standard DVD burner on standard DVD media.
>
> Try Ulead consumer Video Studio, and/or their pro Media Studio for free
> for 30 days. It'll work just great on the PC you already have. Then
> buy what you want, $80 or $500. And no long list of plug-ins at extra
> cost either when you do decide to buy! Upgrades have run $200 to $300
> for the pro version. With the extra $4,500 go on a great vacation and
> start your next documentary!
>
> On your budget, you could buy a laptop, a desktop, both Video Studio
> and Media Studio, and their DVD burning DVD Workshop (even though both
> editing programs come with burners), and more, and still have $$ left
> for a great weekend with the missus. Get as many 300 gig hard drives
> for $79 at Fry's (www.outpost.com) as you want, and add them inside, or
> daisychain Firewire enclosures for external drives. Personally, I
> recommend forget the RAID. That was for when drives and motherboard
> busses were slow; RAID sometimes actually slows things down now and
> I've heard of dropped frames. Just backup regularly. I've not dropped
> a single HDV frame in 10 months, and I USUALLY leave Outlook and 30
> other TSR';s running. I can surf and do other (although not graphic
> intensive) tasks while rendering.
>
> I happen to be a bargain hunter, just my nature. Still, worth checking
> out, and you can do it for free with the system you have.
>
> Jim McGauhey
> Washington State
>
> AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800+
> Gigabyte K8 Triton nForce 3 motherboard
> GeForce FX 5700 VE 256 MB video
> 2 Gig RAM DDR400
> Windows XP Pro SP2
> 120 Gig IDE HD C
> 160 Gig IDE HD for video
> 250 Gig ATA HD for files
> 300 Gig ATA HD for video
> 300 Gig ATA HD for video, swap, & backup
> Ulead Media Studio Pro 8 (HiDef)
> VideoStudio 8.0
> Toshiba 16X Dbl Layer
> Hammer 16X Dbl Layer
>
> Cameras
> Sony HVR A1U Hi Def
> Sony DVR TRV740 Digital8
>
> Specialize in underwater video
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> leekazimir@gmail.com wrote:
>> Original poster here. I want to thank everyone who has so far posted
>> in these threads, it's already given me a lot to research and think
>> about. I see the debate's getting a little heated at times, but that's
>> cool with me since I'm learning from all sides.
>>
>> I should have mentioned in the original post that I already own a
>> decent PC (3.0 ghz Pentium 3, 1GB RAM, 250GB hard drive) that I could,
>> should I decide to stick with PC, spend the money upgrading. I'd add 2
>> or 3 gigs or RAM, a few hard drives, maybe a new video card and
>> definitely a new HD display. Then I could go with the software you
>> guys have mentioned, such as Vegas 7, Ulead, Premiere Pro, maybe a
>> combination of the three.
>>
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