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Posted by Spex on 10/30/06 14:15
carlmart wrote:
> Spex wrote:
>
>> But my point is that I have yet to hear the point that the compression
>> does show its teeth. I'd like to hear a sample of MP2 falling apart.
>>
>> Do the group a favour and make two recordings with the HDV camera you
>> have/or going to use. Record a section of spoken word in HDV then
>> switch the camera over to DV/DVCAM mode and record the same phrase or
>> whatever in PCM.
>
> Several points over this question:
>
> 1) I am not going to download any tests I do. If anyone doesn't believe
> my findings that's their problem. This is not a science congress where
> I have to submit so many samples to prove what I say.
I knew you wouldn't put your samples where your mouth is. BS artist.
>
> 2) I don't care for the PCM recording in the DV camera. What I am
> proposing is a separate recording system.
I wanted you to compare PCM vs MP2 ON THE SAME CAMERA you dip! To prove
the limiting factor is not the compression but the audio section of the
camera...
>
> 3) The audio recording is MPEG1, not MPEG 2. The HDV video is MPEG2.
> Still compressed though.
HDV audio is Mpeg 1 layer II aka MP2. MP3, you guessed it is MPEG 1
layer III ta da!! MP2 NEVER refers to MPEG-2 or MPEG-2 AAC.
>
> 4) Audio is made of subtleties. The number of them you can pick up and
> record are what separates mics, preamps and recording types. Subtetlies
> that even usual measurements many times do not quantify. The master
> recording should have all these subtetlies. A linear recording will
> ALWAYS be better than a compressed recording, no matter how intelligent
> this compression is. Why would I pick a compressed recording (HDV) when
> I can have an uncompressed one (CF portable recorders) with very little
> work?
I don't give a shit about what hoops you want to jump through it's the
NOOBS and hobbyists that might read your drivel and take it as verbatim
I worry about.
>
> 5) I don't look down at users that are OK with MP3 or compressed sound
> on their portables. I myself use a compressed MD walkman on my flying
> trips (better than MP3). But as a master recordist I want the best
> recording I can get. And I am trying to talk to the people that also
> think like that. That I discriminate people that do not think that way,
> I don't think so. But you seem to feel menaced by proposals that differ
> from what you believe.
>
The only thing I am menaced by are the nutters like you that post utter
tosh and fail time and time again to prove their meanderings. You are
just another in a long line.
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