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 Posted by Bill Vermillion on 11/09/06 18:05 
In article <5jlfj2hcbged57fuvms4p4aher547pailv@4ax.com>, 
E. Barry Bruyea  <damnsummerhas gone@rural.ca> wrote: 
>On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:57:20 GMT, Phisherman <noone@nobody.com> wrote: 
> 
>>On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:56:44 GMT, Robert Peirce 
>><bob@peirce-family.com.invalid> wrote: 
>> 
>>>This may have been covered before.  If so, I missed it.  Anyhow, I have  
>>>some shows saved on Tivo that I want to put on DVD. 
>>> 
>>>About how many times do you find you can write to a R/W DVD before you  
>>>start to get errors?  With plain DVDs under $0.30, a R/W DVD is not very  
>>>economical unless you can beat that.  OTOH, after a while you will start  
>>>to get unrecoverable failures.  I would rather pitch them before that,  
>>>but I don't want to do it too soon.  I would hate to write a program to  
>>>DVD and find I can't recover it.  It wouldn't really cost me that much  
>>>actual time.  But it would be a royal pain to have to do it again. 
>>> 
>>>Also, do you have any favorite R/W DVDs I should consider?  I imagine  
>>>some are better than others on a write/dollar basis. 
>> 
>>The quality of DVD brands vary, so if you value your data buy the best 
>>you can find.  I buy Yaiyo Yuden and have far fewer errors than other 
>>brands.  How many times you can re-write to a R/W depends on several 
>>factors, but I have heard 1000 re-writes is close to the limit.  I 
>>wonder how anyone can keep track of that unless you are doing 
>>something like a re-write once a day.  Another good question is how 
>>long can I expect a write-once DVD to reliably keep data?  Ten years? 
>>If you are looking for cheap high-capacity storage, it is hard to beat 
>>tape. 
> 
> 
>I have generally been buying DVD+RW's on the cheap for the past couple 
>of years.  We tend not to watch a lot of 'live' T.V. and record the 
>stuff we really want to watch at our convenience.  I was finding that 
>after a while, I was getting 'Freezes' quite frequently.  Sometimes 
>you get by them, other times, that was it.   In March I bought a five 
>pack of Sony Accucore DVD+RW's to use for recording; out of curiosity, 
>I put labels on the case with numbers printed from 1-50 and ticked off 
>every time they were used.  I got a high of 31 and a low of 25. 
>Interesting enough, I called Sony and after a couple of discussions 
>and one call back, I was told that 'that sounds just about right' in 
>regards usage.  I don't know if there are brands that will last 
>longer, but at today's prices, it probably isn't worth it pay much of 
>a premium. 
 
I user RWs in a DVR that does not have an HD.  Then for the ones 
I want to save I copy them out, use TDA to make menus, etc., and 
burn to a permanent disk. 
 
I had some optodisk ?? - that really only liked about 4 or 5 
rewrites. So I figure it cost me 5-10 cents more per final disk 
including, but I had decent menus and navigation by doing it that 
way.  I don't know the maximum number I've gotten but a few cents 
doesn't compare to my time making the final disk :-) 
 
Bill 
 
 
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