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Re: Exported AVi is of poor quality

Posted by pwilleke on 11/26/06 21:00

Frank,

I have put my answers in between your text, I hope that is clear
enough.
This reply should give answer to questions of others, if not sorry,
could you ask specifically what I need to tell you?

PS: The movie also looks very bad on tv, a lot of stripes and not
fluent video.

Thanx,
P

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>With regard to your input files, they both appear to be standard PAL
>DV (Digital Video) files, but with low quality 16/32 audio rather than
>16/48 audio.

This is quit surprising, I thought the camera's were digital.
However, I don't know the settings that were used.

>I have no idea why GSpot reported that you didn't have the correct
>video codec installed, as a DirectShow-based version is included with
>Windows (MSDV.SYS). You might want to check (run DXDIAG.EXE) to ensure
>that you have the latest version of DirectX installed (9.0c) on your
>system. If you don't, then get it from the Microsoft Web site.

I ran DXDIAG.EXE and the DirectX version is DirectX 9.0c
(4.09.0000.0904)


>When you created your output file, it looks like Premiere upsampled
>your audio from 16/32 to 16/48. There's nothing wrong with this. In
>fact, in the future, always acquire (shoot) your video with 16/48
>audio to start with, not 16/32. 16/32 is garbage.

I will remember this one when filming myself. As the two files were
shot with camera's that are not mine, I didn't have any control over
the settings.

>As to the visual quality of your output file, it looks bad because it
>was encoded with the Cinepak codec, which is sort of old and obsolete.
>Also, we don't know the frame rate and frame size (dimensions) of your
>output video file because this information isn't listed in your post.
>This is critical information.

In Premiere I found that the Frame Size = 720h 480v
FrameRate = 29.97
Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV Pal (1.067)


>When you saved your output file, you should have specified DV as your
>output codec. I suspect that Cinepak was chosen because it may be the
>default codec on your system and you didn't specify anything to the
>contrary.

In the setting for Premiere I see the Compressor used is indeed Cinepak
codec by Radius.
The other that I see in the list are:
- ffdshow Video Codec
- Indeo Video 5.10
- Intel Indeo Video R3.2
- Intel Indeo Video 4.5
- Intel IYUV Codec
- Microsoft RLE
- Microsoft Video 1

What would have been a better choise????


>I also get the feeling that you're using an old version of Premiere
>and not the latest Premiere Pro 2.0, but for a project like this, that
>should have no negative impact, although you have to be careful which
>codecs you select.

I use Premiere 6.0, for now, I want to upgrade, but I don't know if the
project file (ppj)
I created in 6.0 will load in Pro 2.0


>I also have a suspicion that the output file that you created may have
>a frame rate as low as 15 frames per second instead of 25 frames per
>second and that the frame size may be as small as 320 by 240 instead
>of 720 by 576.

As I wrote above, it is at a frameRate of 29.97 and Sie is 720x480.


>Sorry to say this, but there's no way to recover the lost visual
>quality at this point. You will most likely have to re-edit your
>project.

This I don't understand, the input files are of good quality.
If I could improve the output quality of Premiere, I could just export
to Movie again, no?


>As a quick test, you may want to open up one of your two input
>(source) files in Premiere, edit out a small one minute portion, and
>save this one-minute clip back out to disk (under a different name, of
>course - do not overwrite the original file) specifying the DV codec.
>Then open this output file in GSpot to ensure that Premiere used the
>DV codec (FourCC dvsd) at 25 fps and 720x576 and that the audio is
>2-channel 16/48 PCM.
As I wrote above, I don't have a DV codec (at least, it seems to me I
don't).
So I'm not sure on what to do the check for a better output quality.


>In other words, ensure that you have the correct workflow in place
>prior to doing an actual project.


>Also, I don't know which version of Premiere you're using, but you may
>want to start by creating a Project which has the correct parameters.
>Then import your source files, edit, and render your output file
I opened the project as a DV - PAL : Standard 48kHz.




I hope you can help me further with this info.
It seems to me however that the output was done with 48kHz en 29
FrameRate, so it should be fine, not?


Thanx a million for looking at this problem I'm having,
P (Belgium - Europe)

 

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