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Re: DVD Cam-corders questions

Posted by Mike Kujbida on 01/07/07 13:15

Jim S wrote:
> "Mike Kujbida" <kujfamNoSpam@xplornet.com> wrote in message
> news:50b9msF1fcmgcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> maks71@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I am in market for digital cam corders and Have following questions
>>> regarding DVD Camcorders. Will appreciate your inputs.
>>>
>>> 1) How bad/good(noticable) are seek time delays.. e.g. I took few
>>> minutes of video then either switched off the camcorder or reviewing
>>> the video in playback mode. How long DVD players takes find the next
>>> recording position? How long are these delays in SONY/ Canon
>>> brands?
>>>
>>> Is there any other negatives of DVD players besides compatibilty on
>>> normal DVD players etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Mak.
>>
>>
>> IMO, DVD camcorders should never have been allowed to come to market.
>> If all you ever want to do with it is shoot and archive, be my guest.
>> If you any thoughts of doing editing though, buy a miniDV camcorder
>> instead
>> and save yourself a lot of grief.
>>
>> Mike
>
> However, it's still possible to satisfactorily edit video that is not
> on miniDV, I've just done some editing from video taken on the memory
> card of a friend's digital still camera. The results were
> surprisingly good for viewing on a relatively small screen. But not
> so good if you want to project the film on to a 100 inch screen with
> a video projector. Even my miniDV (once edited and put on to a DVD)
> doesn't go too well on very large screens, it's not as good as
> commercial DVDs, for example.


I've edited a lot of miniDV footage that has been displayed on 8' x 10' (or
larger) projection screens. The quality of the projector and, to a lesser
extent, the screen, are the critical factors here. Having a decent 3 chip
camcorder doesn't hurt either :-(


> People say that you need to use miniDV for the best results, but they
> then go and make a DVD of their film and compress a 12 gig file down
> to 4 gig.


I'd much rather do that then start with a already highly compressed format
and compress it even further.
My videos can (and often do) involve a lot of FX processing (eg. chroma
key). If I started with miniDVD footgae, this wouldn't even be an option
due to the highly compressed nature of the original fooatge.


> After all, it's convenient to make a DVD of your results so
> that you can get the benefit of chapters etc. But to get the full
> benefit of miniDV, IMHO, after editing, you need to make an avi file,
> not an mpg file. As soon as you make an mpg file for use on a DVD,
> you have compressed your video considerably, so the final result
> wouldn't be much better than editing video that was taken on a DVD
> camcorder.


See my previous statement . DVDs were designed as a delivery medium, not as
a shooting medium.


> And then if you want to play your avi file back, you need to connect
> your computer or your camcorder to your TV, because your DVD player
> doesn't recognise avi files. So there are some advantages to using
> DVDs for showing your movies, particularly for home use and with
> screens no larger than, say, 32"


Once again, like a lot of folks I know, I shoot for the big screen all the
time and use a DVD of my final [roject as the "deliver" medium.


> I guess when we all get high definition camcorders and blu ray discs
> and recorders, then there probably won't be a need to compress the
> video so that it fits on the DVD. But in the meantime, I can't see
> much wrong with DVD camcorders for people who are not wanting to
> project the results on to very large screens!


Or for people that don't want to do extensive editing. YMMV.

Mike

 

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