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Posted by PTravel on 01/09/07 08:15
"Jim S" <Jim S@jimsplace.com> wrote in message
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> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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>> AVCHD isn't, at this point, supported by many (if any) editing packages.
>> Sony has also arbitrarily limited the data bandwidth to between 15 and 17
>> mbps, compared with 25 mbps for HDV. The current crop of AVCHD
>> camcorders have significant artifact problems (for that matter, so do
>> Sony's consumer HDV camcorders, and for the same reason). The
>> manufacturer's specs are provided for marketing purposes and don't
>> provide any real insight into the relative quality of the video.
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> I looked at these user reviews of the Sony HDR-SR1 hard disc camcorder:
Who is doing the reviewing is far more important than how many reviews there
are. The reports I've heard from people in a position to know are that
there is severe digital artifacting resulting from the artificially-crippled
bandwidth, less than half the digital bandwidth used for SD DV-25.
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> http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Handycam_HDR_SR1/4852-6500_7-31979960.html?tag=uoavrg
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> In these reviews, video quality doesn't seem to be an issue, but the
> current lack of full scale editing support has annoyed some users.
> Although Sony does provide some basic editing software with the camera, it
> looks like it will be a little while before programs such as Vegas support
> the AVCHD format. It does look like it's a pretty good camera overall, and
> other reviews I've seen aren't too bad either. I really like the idea of
> hard drive camcorders, it's really annoying when filming weddings, for
> example, to have to change tapes and / or have another person filming when
> you fill up a tape.
I don't like the idea of hard drive camcorders. Harddrives are more fragile
than tape, and the video has to be transferred to tape for archival
purposes, anyway (and I always archive my raw footage). I also shoot travel
video, which means I'm shooting anywhere between 8 and 15 hours per shoot --
that's 110 to 205 gigabytes per shoot, and no digital camcorder can do that.
I could, I suppose, carry a laptop with me (I usually do anyway), but then I
have to waste time each night dumping video to the laptop (from which I
wouldn't edit anyway).
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> But if you want to wait for a 30Mbps 1080p video camera, which records
> high quality video for 5 hours on a 60 gig hard drive, then the JVC Everio
> GZ-HD7 may be for you, it's going to cost about $1,800. 5 hours of 25
> mpbs is 13.7 g x 5 = 67 gig. A higher bandwidth can't use less storage.
Check your math.
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> http://gear.ign.com/articles/753/753471p1.html
It can't record 5 hours on a 60 gig drive if it's 30 mbps.
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> Yes, this is a 1080p camera, not 1080i like the Sony HDR-SR1, so I guess
> Sony and Panasonic will also make camcorders like this one before too
> long!
Which is why I'm waiting before I take the HD plunge. The available
machines simply aren't up to par with respect to video quality.
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> Cheers, Jim
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