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Posted by musicman on 01/09/07 12:34

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
> "musicman" <stradlinizzy@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1167912658.905537.132270@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Gary wrote:
> >> What a waste of disk space to record only the audio on a 4 gig disk.
> >>
> >> Just think how many cd uncompressed tracks you could get on that. or
> >> how much MP3 in superb quality. Hours and hours and hours
> >
> >
> > I can fit 8 hours of music on a CD+R at the lowest resolution
> >
> > I just put 6 LP's on a CD+R even at the highest/fastest resolution
>
> I assume that was a typo for DVD+R.
>
> > what the hell are you talking about ?
>
> A DVD+/-R will hold about 30 - 50 albums in MP3 format (depending on
> album lengths and quality settings). A CD-R will hold about 6 - 10
> albums, depending.
>
> If the DVD recorder will only fit 6 or 8 albums on a DVD, it's
> obviously wasting lots of space, very probably due to the fact that it
> wants to record video and is reserving space for that, even at the
> highest compression setting. Even though in theory a blank video image
> should compress to nearly nothing when using variable bit rate, it's
> not a given that consumer machines will really do that. Apparently
> yours doesn't, at least not in the setting you're using. Another
> downside is that you're creating a "non-standard" format, namely a
> video DVD which just happens to contain no image but just audio. That's
> not the same as a DVD audio (no existing consumer device can create
> that format at the moment).
>
> It should be preferrable to create something that will play on a large
> number of machines so you don't lose your music when that machine goes
> bust. Given that DVD audio is impossible to create anyway, MP3 disks
> are the way to go. You just have to make up your mind between DVD or
> CD. I think you mentioned upthread that you own a Panasonic DVD
> recorder. According to the manuals, the EH56 and EH65 will play MP3
> from DVD-R (NOT DVD+R) or CD provided the disks adhere to the
> standardised directory structure described in the manual. The older
> EH52 will play MP3 only from CDs, and so do almost all recent DVD
> players, CD players, and a gazillion of portable devices.
>
> So the decision is: MP3 on DVD-R and save lots of space, but limited to
> only a few playback machines, or MP3 on CD and save less space, but
> remain compatible with almost any device you own or will own.
>
> > why store 200 CD's in a player, when this stores it inside the HDD
> >
> > and they also make them with twice as much HDD space as this one has
> >
> > that means the one with more HDD space, will store 240 hours of music
>
> OK if you don't wish to flip disks at all, HD is another option, but a
> DVD recorder is really not designed for the task. You're wasting
> enormous amounts of disk space there. You can easily fit 1,500 hrs
> audio on a 80GB disk, 3,000 hrs on 160GB, 5,000 hrs on 250GB. Get a USB
> HD and record to that, playback through the soundcard of your computer
> connected to your hifi amp.
>
> Regards
>
> --
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>
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the AC-3 format is far superior to MP3

a DVD+R holds 6 hours of music on the lowest resolution- no, there is
no wasted disk space- you can look at the finished disk and see it has
burned on it, for the entire diameter of the disk

but the resolution can be turned up and you can fit 1 hour of music on
a DVD+R of very high quality AC-3 music format

MP3's are crap- you may as well play a stereo soundtrack and cut one
channel out, that's how much info is missing

 

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