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Posted by AnthonyR on 01/15/07 18:39
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45ab0658$0$27045$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Lots of HD (and it is HD in terms of resolution and image quality, plus
> the "HD" light on my cable box is on) is still 4:3. For example, the HD
> feed of the NBC nightly news (Brian Williams) is HD but it's not
> widescreen; I believe that this is true also for CBS and ABC. Of course
> you can have either the cable box or the set "stretch" a 4:3 broadcast to
> fill the screen but this introduces visible distortion. I'd rather just
> leave it narrow with sidebars, but also with HD's high resolution.
>
> That said, once you experience HD broadcasts (4:3 or widescreen), you will
> find yourself resenting SDTV, and also searching for HD material to watch
> because it's in HD. Over time, the amount of HD programming will grow
> (also, almost certainly, the percentage of it that is widescreen). You can
> continue watching NTSC SDTV until it dies (and longer, if you insist, with
> a converter), but you won't stop the transition to digital TV and HDTV.
Barry, I NEVER intended to stop the transition to HDTV, in fact, I wished it
was done sooner!
I am watching technology invented in the 30's here and waiting patiently for
the mandated transition in 2009.
And even then, I'll see how much longer it takes for full transition.
All I said was at current state I have no great ergency to switch over. As
you said
NBC is braodcasting a better 4:3 picture now, well SDTV can show 500+ lines
of
resolution if it's available, VHS was barely 250 lines, that's why DVD's
look so much better
than VHS.
I think lots of people bought into the HD fade too early only buying 720p
capable sets.
I think the slow and messy changeover WIILL happen, yes, nothing will stop
HDTV.
But I can wait till either my current 50" (4:3) set goes or it's like 2010
and the sets are so much cheaper and better
that I donate mine to charity, one of the two will happen by then.
In the meantime, i bet my current DVD collection is still playable on
whatever format type machine wins the HDDVD wars.
>
> Side note: I bought a JVC HDTV, 56" 1080p, for $1899 on December 2nd.
> Today Best Buy has the same set for $1,749 (and they offered a price
> protection guarantee for all sales since late November until February
> 5th). The price is falling fast, this is less than I paid in 1996 for a
> Hitachi 50" projection TV (NTSC SDTV, of course). LCD sets of 37" and
> below are now under $1,000. With the falling prices and the mandated
> death of over-the-air NTSC in February of 2009, the move to HD is not
> going to be stopped, regardless of how anyone feels about it.
>
>
Wow, So in 2010, I should be a ble to buy a flat screen Plasma 65" 1080p for
about $500? Cool!
And it will have a Quad Core 4D filtering CPU built in with networking
bluetooth to other appliances
and e-mail server built in from cable company too! Excellent, can't
wait...jusr 3 more years! Yeah!
> AnthonyR wrote:
>> "MassiveProng" <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:obshq2p41214spfahbbriq41d6jpit5g6b@4ax.com...
>>> On 12 Jan 2007 05:37:35 -0800, jukka@liimatta.org Gave us:
>>>
>>>>> I could go on but it's pointless. The bottom line here is that you
>>>>> are
>>>>> a very shortsighted person who lacks both experience and vision.
>>>>> We've
>>>>> been through this before, and the passage of time will nullify all of
>>>>> your arguments.
>>>> I don't lack vision neither experience but still won't be first in line
>>>> to pay HIGH premium for immature first tier products, which I don't
>>>> even have any sensible use at this time.
>>> You're obviously just not a "first tier" kinda guy... in any sense.
>>>> The players are ridiculously priced and there are only a handful of
>>>> titles you can even buy at this time.
>>> You don't remember the "handful of titles" that rand in DVD?
>>> We won't even mention the Laser Disc player prices when it was the top
>>> dog of A?V mass reproduction.
>>>
>>>> Thousands of dollars to watch
>>>> Spiderman in Hi-Def? Not my cup of tea.
>>> Do you even have a high definition display yet?
>>>
>>> What will you do when nothing works that you have?
>>>
>>>> But I'll check on the progress with interest and will consider
>>>> upgrading from red to blue laser based optical media when it makes any
>>>> sense;
>>> Opinions are like assholes.
>>>
>>>> right now it makes no sense at all,
>>> To you... asshole...
>>>
>>>> the format "war", even if
>>>> resolved by hybrid discs and/or players doesn't forge any confidence
>>>> either.
>>> Actually, it does.
>>>
>>>> Early adopters always end up shafted and always will.
>>> Yeah... there is a little 2 mm shaft spinning my hub right now,
>>> that spins the years in development high definition technology disc in
>>> front of a years in development laser diode, passing a data stream
>>> onto some very high end years in development handling circuitry.
>>>
>>> Fuck you, idiot.
>>
>> I agree with Jukka, I was always an early adapter myself. I paid $1200
>> for first 1x Pioneer DVD burner and $1400 for first Philips DVD burner
>> home unit.
>> Now you can buy a dual format computer burner at 16x for under $30, and a
>> home DVD burner for $69 that doesn't have the bugs the $1400 units did
>> with the laser head assembly needing constant replacement by Philips. So
>> those of us who got burned before are more cautious this time around and
>> can wait. And no, I don't even have an HD set yet, why should I? 16:9
>> isn't broadcast on every channel yet. I enjoy what I watch today, you
>> seem to imply I am missing out by not seizing the day. I enjoy standard
>> NTSC signal and current 480i DVD just fine on 50'' 4:3 set just fine, and
>> plan to as long as the set holds out.
>> I would buy my neighbors 4:3 (60inch he is selling cause he is moving) if
>> I had room to store it as a back up!
>> So you're argument makes no sense to me, maybe you need to get burned
>> with bluray or hd-dvd as an early adapter so you are more cautious in 10
>> years for next big shift.
>> Also, why the need to curse? I ignore it, it doesn't bolster your
>> argument at all, just makes you seen hot headed irrational and less
>> intelligent.
>>
>> As far as HD-DVD against bluray, whichever format is backward compatible
>> to current DVD, I believe both HD-DVD and dual format players (will)
>> then that is what will succeed in format war, as current 480i DVD is here
>> to stay for years and years!! It's selling like hot cakes now, no one
>> plans to switch away from current DVD, maybe slowly add some HD titles to
>> their collection but switch to incompatible format? NEVER!!!
>>
>> AnthonyR.
>>
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