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Posted by Mike Kujbida on 02/07/07 05:15
Jeff, see responses inline.
rrieaa sefifjls wrote:
> yo video production folk: Ok, I'm pretty new to NLE world, but have
> many years of pc building experience, & messing with Pro Tools and
> other DAW's etc, in a variety of formats and on a variety of pc
> systems. Vegas 7 seems pretty darn easy to use so I went with it. I
> am not going to do anything but make music videos, so nothing will be
> longer than 3 or 4 minutes tops (no Thriller for me!).
>
> current system -
>
> mb: gigabyte
> proc: Amd Athlon 64 3000+
> ram: 2gb DDR 400mhz pc3200 ram
> hd seagate barracuda 7200
> video card nvidia geforce 6200 256 mb
>
> Vegas seems to work fine as far as I can tell. After much ado and
> research I discovered that editing found footage online, most of which
> appears to be compressed (mpegs, what have you), is a total crapshoot
> and that even getting the proper codecs to let you play stuff back is
> a nightmare as far as if you want to do anything but cut and paste
> them together without any sort of effects. A bummer. I also could not
> find any software (virtual dub included) that appeared to be able to
> consistently reencode the footage into something Vegas liked. Anyone?
Most of us have miniDV camcorders and edit the footage we shoot.
> Therefore..
>
> I took it upon myself to create my own avi footage using my little
> canon digital camera. "It makes avi's", I said to myself. Sure
> enough, though, the freaking canon camera needs its own custom codec,
> which I obtained and thus it let me play the stuff back fine - the
> codec I got is from Morgan multimedia, their M-JPEG codec. Edits work
> fine. Everything plays back smoothly with a few fx I have applied, in
> draft and preview mode, at 'full' size. The playback slows down kinda
> jerky in 'good' and 'best' mode, but I just assumed this was because
> of my system power, and that after rendering, the final file for
> playback would play a-ok.
That's correct. Playback in a Vegas system defnitely depends on your CPU.
Add FX and playback will be affected.
> NO such luck. I have tried every darn thing I can think of - I have
> tweaked the hell out of xp. Every drive is defragged. I have nuked
> every background process that I could think of that might affect my
> render testing including windows explorer. I also tried test renders
> w/jacking up the priority on Vegas itself just to see what would
> happen. This does in fact all make a huge difference in render speed,
> but the end result is the same... an avi that stutters seemingly
> every second or so in the playback. I have tried messing with Vegas'
> 'video' tab to adjust the codec for rendering, but none of them
> really seem to make much difference. Additionally, even though
> previewing the video in Vegas looks great and the settings seem fine
> - lets say DV NTSC 29.97, the resulting framerate on the render says
> something like 25fps, and the rate seems to jump around according to
> the display.
How are you viewing the finished product?
>I know my little digital camera is not ideal for making
> this stuff, so.
>
> 1. is there no way to make this thing work with my canon sd500
> output?
Sure is. I've got a Canon S50 and have done this before so I know it works.
> I know it's a wack format, but that codec from Morgan
> multimedia is pretty thorough looking as far as features go. Not that
> I have any idea what half of them are. If not, do people just
> generally xfer from DV cams only, and that's it?
That's the primary reason NLEs are exist :-)
> What in the name of
> all that is holy is the EXACT preferred format of incoming video in
> Vegas?
DV-AVI (from a camcorder) is preferred but Vegas can handle damn near
anything, including formats a lot of other NLEs complety ignore or choke on.
> And why bother supporting all these other formats for playback
> in Vegas if it refuses to render it to a usable file?
It does. You just need to be patient and learn to use the software.
> 2. If you guys think this setup is in fact doable, what the heck is up
> with the render?
It's extremely doable.
What format are you trying to render out to?
If it's AVI, choose "video for windows (*.avi) in the "Save as Type" box and
NTSC DV in the "Template" box.
My home AMD is only a 2200+ and I have no problems doing anything you've
described so far.
Here's a few sites for you to spend some time on.
Comprehensive list of Vegas links: http://www.blue7media.com/vegas/
Excellent newsletters (PDF format - grab all of them):
http://tinyurl.com/2q9rau
Samples of training videos from Sony:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/support/trainingvids.asp?prod=vegas5
Mike
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