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Posted by Spex on 02/16/07 16:55
nappy wrote:
> "Mike Kujbida" <kujfam@xplornet.com> wrote in message
> news:1170956143.495007.198660@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 8, 11:37 am, Ura Dippschit <URN.Id...@idiots.com> wrote:
>>> In article <530go9F1qd69...@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Mike Kujbida" <kuj...@NoSpamxplornet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I said that 15 tracks of varying audio formats WAS a problem for
>>>> FCP and that this is something Vegas handles with ease.
>>> Except it isn't. That makes you full of shit.
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>> If you say so.
>> Can you drop one each of DV-AVI, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, Quicktime, WMV and
>> Real video clips as well as wave, wma, mp3 and mp4 audio clips on one
>> timeline and play it back without doing anything to it?
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>> BTW, here's one response from a guy who's used FCP extensively. It's
>> from Oct. 2006 so there is a chance that Apple has made some changes
>> since then.
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>> Here is the quick list of things that Vegas can do that FCP cannot:
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>> - True format and resolution indepedance
>> - Mix resolutions on the same timeline without rendering or losing
>> real-time performance (FCP is a LOOOONG way from this)
>> - Add, remove and adjust effects During real-time playback
>> - Surround sound mixing
>> - Unlimted Parent-Child track control
>> - Video effects at event, track and output level
>> - Video and audio bus tracks for project level automation
>> - Bus level automated motion blur and super-sampling
>> - One-click audio normalising
>> - Real, smaple accurate, audio multitracking tools (audio in FCP is a
>> cruel joke)
>> - 3D track motion and animation
>> - Unlimited point bezier masks
>> - Velocity frame rate control envelopes
>> - Open scripting in Visual basic or Java script
>> - Multiple copies of Vegas open at the same time (have one rendering
>> while you edit in another at the same time..!)
>> - Punch in, punch out audio recording
>> - Streaming media meta-data commands from the timeline
>> - On the fly marker inserts during playback
>> - Monitor wet/record dry audio recording (hear the input with effects
>> but record without effects)
>> - Simultaneous multi-channel audio recording with real-time effects
>> monitoring
>> - Parent-Track compositing modes
>> - RED Book CD mastering form the timeline
>> - Audio Pitch and Tempo correction on the timeline
>> - Control surface suppourt for any MIDI device
>> - MIDI Timecode synchronisation
>> - Built in Metronome and flexible ruler format including all timecodes
>> as well as Measures (bars and beats)
>> - Bump, Displacement and Height mapping track options
>> - Unlimited 'undo'
>> - Import from any source format including DVD camcorders and direct
>> export for mobile devices; psp, ipod.
>> - Built in CD ripper/extractor
>> - Synch audio tracks with online CD database for metadata retrival
>> - Built in suppourt for dolby AC-3 format
>> - One click red-eye removal
>> - Bus to Bus audio mixing
>> - Abilty to import, read and edit already authored DVDs
>> - Real-time one-click video event Reverse
>> - Envelope animation control of transitions
>> - Free-hand Paint-on envelopes (audio, pan, velocity, motion blur etc)
>> - Split screen preview for pre and post effect...
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> How quickly they become quiet when you present them with facts. I have never
> had so many problems with audio in a video nle as I had with FCP. That point
> is lost on people who have never used any other NLE.
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Good to see you round there parts again.
There are quite a number of good points Mike makes above but do keep in
mind that the likes of PremPro, Vegas et al have had at least a full
release if not a point release as well since the last FCP update. FCP
is looking a little tired in some areas. I am sure it is only a matter
of weeks before the release of FCP 6. I can't believe it won't address
many if not all of the criticisms directed at it.
I have tried to like Vegas because its feature set and stability are
superb and it is extremely cost effective....but...I simply cannot get
past the Fischer-Price toy interface. Why Sony piss fart about with a
video editing interface slapped on an audio editor is beyond me.
Since you we last round these parts we've added a Mac Pro to our office
running bootcamp and parallels and as soon as the dual quad core Mac Pro
is available we'll have one of those for a render farm. We are keeping
much more work internal and we haven't broken the bank to do it. Thank
fuck I gave Avid the heave.
On the Avid point it looks very much like Avid XPPHD will be taken out
and shot now that MC is software based leaving the consumer to choose
between the shite that is Liquid and the over priced MC. Avid c**ts.
Good to see you posting here again and John Lubran too. The clever dumb
balance is heading in the right direction in this group.
S
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