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Posted by Pete on 03/22/07 21:56
Don and Mike...I have some new info. I just tried disabling my xp firewall,
and it had no effect at all on my download speeds - so I guess the answer is
that winmx has slow download speeds. I don't understand this at all - I was
led to believe that the downloads were fast. Can either of you tell me what
a typical download speed is for receiving something from someone who has all
his slots available (and only has 6 slots), or whatever the proper
terminology is. Just give me a ballpark number - does it ever get up in the
hundreds of kilobytes per second, or what. If not how the hell do people
use it to download video stuff - music is bad enough.
Thanks...Pete
Pete wrote:
> Sorry Don, but this is just too confusing for me. I still don't know
> why the trojan can't use one of the ports you suggested (ie why just
> certain ports) and what would my speed increase to (approximately),
> if I did open up the two ports you suggested. Please try to answer
> these two questions.
> Also, I am totally confused by your statement "If you don't like the
> idea of opening ports, set WinMX to operate in firewalled mode,
> connect as secondary only". I assume you mean check the radio button
> that says "make a secondary connection to the network". I don't see
> how this will help increase my speed, and why wouldn't it just make
> it worse. It says to use the secondary connection if you use dial up
> or use a firewall. I would think that would just make things worse.
> Anyway I just tried it and it did nothing as far as I could see. I
> guess I will just put it back on primary, and do what I have been
> doing.
> Thanks for taking the time to write me...Pete
>
>
> Don M. wrote:
>> "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:etstj501qqq@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>> Don M. wrote:
>>>> "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:etq08i01an6@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>>> I forgot to tell you I have windows xp firewall set to accept
>>>>> WinMX, so I don't think that has anything to do with it, plus I
>>>>> believe I read in the forum that a firewall will either let
>>>>> something through, or not let it through (ie no in
>>>>> betweens)....Pete
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You still need to punch a couple of holes in the XP firewall. If
>>>> you don't, set WinMX to operate in firewalled mode (unable to use
>>>> ports).
>>>>
>> http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/firewalling/Microsoft/WindowsXPFirewallFirewall
>>>> /WinMXIn.htm
>>>>
>>>> Be sure the ports you open are not listed here
>>>> http://www.doshelp.com/Ports/Trojan_Ports.htm , e.g. ports 48700
>>>> and 48701 should be ok.
>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> - If the above is true (ie it is not the slots causing my problem),
>>> lets assume I need to punch a couple of holes in my xp firewall
>>> (which I am afraid to mess with - it also seems like a rather
>>> involved process also, after reading the tutorial in winmx). If I
>>> do open the two ports you (Don) mentioned above, what kind of speeds
>>> can I expect (eg will they be at least 500 kbps, or what). And why
>>> are these ports special, and if someone was going to spread a virus
>>> or worm or whatever, why wouldn't they just send it through these
>>> ports, versus the other ports that you said not to mess with. This
>>> port stuff is very confusing to me.
>>>
>> ============
>>
>> It may become less confusing after you read how a trojan works, for
>> instance, a trojan that uses port 6969
>> http://www.doshelp.com/Ports/6969.htm
>> Opening a port is dangerous if the trojan that uses it happens to be
>> installed in your system. As precaution, it's good to avoid opening
>> a port through which a trojan could (if installed) do its deed.
>>
>> Opening a port in XP firewall is easy to do, same steps as allowing
>> an application to access the internet, except you 'Add Port...'
>> instead of 'Add Program...'
>>
>> If you don't like the idea of opening ports, set WinMX to operate in
>> firewalled mode, connect as secondary only.
>>
>>> - I also have a basic question (please excuse me if it sounds dumb),
>>> not knowing how the upload versus download stuff works in P2P, and
>>> the interface with all the servers (for lack of a better word)
>>> involved in the network.
>>
>> Transfers on WinMX are directly from peer to peer. Servers get
>> involved in searches, whois and browse basically.
>>
>>> If I am downloading a song, and the song is coming from another user
>>> someplace in the world (via the file sharing process), than how can
>>> I download the song faster than the person is uploading it.
>>
>> You can't download faster from your peer than your peer uploads to
>> you, but you can download simultaneously from multiple peers on WinMX
>> Peer Network.
>>
>>> Excuse my
>>> ignorance, but downloads are usually faster than uploads as far as I
>>> know (ie my ISP has 1.7 mbps down, but only 256k up - unless I pay
>>> more).
>>
>> It means only that you have more bandwidth available for downloading
>> than for uploading.
>>
>>> Is the
>>> persons upload kept in a buffer, or something, for a certain amount
>>> of time, or what. I would think that the person doesn't start
>>> uploading a song until another person asks for it as a download, and
>>> therefore I don't see how the download can be faster than the
>>> upload. Please shed some light on this if you can. I would
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>
>> Your computer needs to communicate to the other computers when it's
>> ready to receive more data. You should allocated some of that 256k
>> upstream bandwidth for such communications. Use WinMX's Bandwidth
>> Throttle function (in your case, limit outgoing bandwidth to 24000
>> bytes per second).
>>
>>> Thanks...Pete
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Don
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