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Posted by Ty Ford on 06/03/07 14:08
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 15:22:48 -0400, nobody special wrote
(in article <1180812168.996766.74000@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>):
> Ty, you probably also didn't need a teleprompter for the demo: you
> basically can't use a standard lens-behind-an-angled-mirror prompting
> system with Reflecmedia ringlight systems. The LED's can definitely be
> picked up in eyeglasses or shiny items in a shot as well, requiring
> tedious masking or correction in post.
>
> Look, I didn't imply "it doesn't work, period"; I said, for someone
> like the original poster, who is obviously operating on limited means,
> it was expensive overkill, compared to standard systems using paint or
> green or blue cloth, and that it presents problems of it's own. Have
> you priced the cost of additional, wider sheets of the reflecmedia
> glass-bead fabric? It is astronomical. You don't get a really big
> piece bundled with the ringlight, it's just enough for a single person
> and I'm not sure it's long/tall enough for a whole-body shot, even, at
> that. Have you tried to key reflecmedia over more than six feet? The
> throw of the LED's is relatively short and narrow, part of heir
> working principle of retroreflectivity. If you kick up the power to
> throw farther, you get more problems with eye and glasses reflections.
> If you're using it close up, and need prompting, you are forced to put
> the prompter on a screen to one side of the lens or under it; in any
> case, it becomes very obvious you are breaking eye-contact with the
> lens in that situation. I suppose you could use ear prompting instead
> in such a case, but that also adds cost and other issues...
>
> For a head and shoulders medium shot, reflecmedia is a successful
> product, unless you also need prompter, or if the talent wears
> glasses, or you need to shoot two or more people or a larger object or
> set area. I would call it a niche product, that works best for the
> situations it was designed for. I also think it's just way over-
> priced.
>
>
Hi Nobody,
That's an excellent point, the one about the prompter.
Yes the cloth is expensive. At some point, if you don't have access to a
sound stage big enough to light your traditional screen and position talent
off of it so you can light it, you're sunk, so everything has limitations.
Yes we shot over six feet away. The most amazing thing was when someone took
the backdrop and walked about 40 feet away down R&R's hallway with overhead
fluorescent lights and it still worked! We were all pretty wowed by that.
Their key plugin works really well for folks who don't do a lot of that in
post. I'm sue more experienced postprod people can dial up the settings more
easily than I can, but the (can't remember exactly $300?) key software worked
really well.
You can adjust the LED intensity. That helps a lot with not seeing a
reflection in eye glasses, mine included.
Over priced? As with LED lights, certainly expensive, but a great solution
for some problems.
More take about this technology and more usage will probably result in its
improvement and lowered cost. It DID make a nice Harry Potter Invisibility
cape.
Regards,
Ty Ford
PS> Why are you nobody? For me it casts shade on everything you post.
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