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Posted by ninphan on 07/03/07 12:47
On Jul 1, 11:54 am, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <1183304455.084486.92...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
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> ninphan <sjburk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 29, 8:47 pm, Spurious Response
> > <SpuriousRespo...@cleansignal.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:17:37 -0400, Derek Janssen
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> > > <eja...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >Sounds like they know WE know we're sitting on our hands waiting for the
> > > >Standards requirement,
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> > > Life would have been so much simpler if EVERYONE had just boycotted the
> > > Sony money sucking behemoth, and went with the better HD DVD standard.
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> > > No hand sitting required then.
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> > Less bandwidth, less capacity.
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> > No thanks, the HD DVD format has not proved to be better in my eyes.
> > Hardly any use of lossless audio despite TrueHD being mandatory in
> > players.
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> > Blu-ray - 120+ discs with lossless audio
> > HD DVD - 30 something
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> > HD DVD has been out two months longer and they have the audacity to
> > say they are the look and sound of perfect. I'm sorry, but lossy Dolby
> > Digital Plus at 1.5 Mbps is not perfect. Blu-ray is spanking HD DVD
> > left, right and centre in the audio department and has been the far
> > more consistent format so far this year for picture quality as well.
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> > Life would have been so much simpler if Microsoft had stayed out of it
> > and then Toshiba would have not been able to launch their stupid
> > inferior format.
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> BD isn't spanking anything. While they are stuffing the lossless TrueHD
> on many disks, most players don't decode it. Fox keeps sticking DTS-MA
> on their stuff, and exactly ZERO BD players can deal with it. And the
> studios keep bitching that 7.1 LPCM takes up too much space.
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> Life would have been so much simpler if Sony had stayed out of it. That
> way more mfgs would have come to the simpler, more stable HDDVD format.
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> While not all the studios are doing TrueHD with HDDVD, the option is
> there for them to do it. And on HDDVD, TrueHD is supported by every
> single HDDVD player manufactured to date. Something far from true on
> the BD side.
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> That's why the war is still going on. Of course, as consumers, we
> should be thrilled that it is. Do you think the player pricing we see
> today would be this low if one or the other had 'won'? With the
> absolutely pathetic sales of all titles in any HD format, do you think
> we would have this many titles out already?
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> If you believe either of those, then the tooth fairy should have left me
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Again there's only one title with TrueHD and no PCM, Iwo Jima. All
other TrueHD movie titles also have PCM.
Moot point. All players do PCM. All players can decode the lossy 1.5
Mbps DTS legacy track encoded inside the DTS-MA track.
Lions Gate aren't bitching about 7.1 PCM. They've got three titles
already slated with it. Ghost in the Shell 2 has a 7.1 PCM track
(English)
There's nothing stable at all about the HD DVD format. Judging by the
PQ on Blood Diamond all the extra features being touted take up so
much room on the lower capacity lower bandwidth format that the PQ is
suffering, even with VC-1. There's just not enough time to squeeze a
good looking encode when using that much room for all the extra
features. On Blu-ray of course, there is.
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