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Posted by DaveJohnson12 on 08/26/07 07:46
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:22:06 -0500, "def456" <def456@none.none> wrote:
><DaveJohnson12@nomail.> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:43:08 -0500, "def456" <def456@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>>"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> <DaveJohnson12@nomail.> schreef in bericht
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>>>>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:58:33 +0200, "Linea Recta"
>>>>> <mccm.vos@abc.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ><DaveJohnson12@nomail.> schreef in bericht
>>>>> >news:knj4c39rciddk2ogkuonr6q49ekqbe9ei5@4ax.com...
>>>>> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:17:19 GMT, nick <nick@NOSPAM.ORG> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >BigJim wrote:
>>>>> >> >> I like NEC but what ever you order make sure you get what your
>>>> system
>>>>> >uses,
>>>>> >> >> either sata or IDE.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >Over the past few years I have had trouble reading some discs with
>>>>> >> >NEC
>>>>> >> >drives and have gradually replaced them all with Lite-On, which
>>>>> >> >seem
>>>>> >> >to read anything.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >nick
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks, I'll probably go with Light On I guess or maybe an LG though
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >haven't
>>>>> >> had much success with Korean (LG) products. They tend to be not as
>>>>> >> good
>>>> as
>>>>> >> products from Japanese companies from what I've seen.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I have an LG multiburber in the PC and I have an LG standalone HDD/DVD
>>>>> >recorder. Both of them work fine here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. I decided on an LG. The reviews from people who bought DVD
>>>>> burners
>>>> were
>>>>> a little better than the reviews for Lite On.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish you all the best with the new device. I think as a whole LG is
>>>> great
>>>> value for the money.
>>>> BTW, I have done some firmware updates already (on both).
>>>
>>>I have both a Lite-On and LG installed as master/slave, and haven't had
>>>any
>>>problems ripping/burning with either... The Lite-On is faster for
>>>ripping/verifying. LG has a better reputation for burning, but it's slower
>>>for ripping/verifying out of the box. You can make it faster for
>>>ripping/verifying if you want to risk a speed increase MCSE patch at
>>>http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=133858
>>>I did it for mine and it's now about as fast as the Lite-On. I must flip a
>>>coin to decide which one to use!?
>>
>> Do the LG's all have riplock and only rip at something like 2x or are they
>> just
>> somewhat slower than the Lite On? The one I got is the GSA-H44LK BK LS
>> 18x.
>> I didn't see any H44's on the list at cdfreaks. Thank you.
>
>The LG's all have riplock, as far as I know, but I'm not an expert. I have a
>new GSA-H55N which was slower out of the box than my GSA-4167B which I
>bought about 18 months ago. So it looks like they're getting slower and
>slower, but not as slow as 2x in my experience. A rule of thumb might be
>that riplock doubles or triples the time needed to rip/verify a disc. For
>example when verifying a single layer 16x Taiyo Yuden disc after burning a
>movie with ImgBurn, the original H55N got up to about 6x speed maximum,
>while after the MCSE patch it got up to about 15x speed maximum. That's
>typical of rips too, they generally go about twice or three times as fast.
Thanks for the info. Now I have a better idea of what to expect.
I don't really see the logic in making drives that will rip at around 6x. It
makes it inconvenient. I don't know how that helps the movie industry.
>
>There have been recent updates to MCSE and your H44L is on the list at
>http://ala42.cdfreaks.com/MCSE/. You can also download the latest MCSE,
>unzip, and look at the changelog. It looks like the H44 was added in April
>2007, maybe with subsequent improvements. You might start reading the big
>long MCSE thread at about...
>http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=133858&page=27&pp=25
>It's pretty easy if you don't have to go through a .bin file stage, like I
>did with the H55N!? But please note there's a risk, so you have to be sure
>and do it right, or it could kill the drive.
Thanks for letting me know that and thanks for the detailed information and
links. I'll have to make sure I know what I'm doing before I try the MCSE
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