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Posted by Ken Maltby on 11/04/07 21:58
"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> I should probably stay out of this thread, but here are
>> two thoughts. First "VideoReDo TVSuite" should be a
>> very helpful MPEG tool, no matter what editing or
>> authoring programs you may use. (Although there may
>> be some additional tweaking required of the new
>> features, the old functions will continue to work well
>> on HD material.)
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> Helpful how? You're not suggesting that VideoReDo can do anything that
> Premiere Pro can't, are you?
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In a word, Yes. Some of VideoReDo's processing
of MPEG headers and timing, for sure! Not to mention
that it can be much easier to reach for a simple handy
tool, for a small job, than to drag out something overly
complex.
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>> Second; while the SSE4 may tip the balance in any
>> case, I would like to see what AMD is able to do, to
>> match or beat Intel's offering. Isn't competition great!
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>> As one who has been accused of drinking MPEG
>> flavored "Kool-Aid", it's interesting to see how times
>> have changed.
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> The problem was never mpeg, per se, but comparing DVD-compliant mpeg to
> DV-codec-encoded avi, as well as the availability of tools for working
> with it. There are no consumer or prosumer alternatives to
> temporally-encoded high-def video, so it's either mpeg2 for HDV or mpeg4
> for AVCHD.
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Well, this just points out the why I refrained from
posting to this thread for so long.
Now that we have your version of "the problem"
and your view of the comparison that was being
made, (and my how that changed over time).
The discussions were about taking Analog VHS
or SD TV video and creating DVDs. Your position
was that by capturing to DV-AVI the video would
be magically improved to the quality of your 3CCD
Mini-DV camera's output. You also maintained
that MPEG editing was restricted to GOP level
cuts and that no transitions or titling were possible
with MPEG, for years after that was no longer the
case. You finally cut back on such claims only
when Adobe added their plug-in, and then made
the assertion that only very expensive MPEG
editors could handle MPEG and that they struggled
to do it.
Another part of your argument seemed to be that
hardware direct to MPEG encoding is so vastly
inferior to a two pass encoding of DV-AVI that
if your VHS or TV analog video is captured directly
to MPEG it will suffer horrible degradation. This
despite the existence and performance of TiVo,
DVD Recorders, Satellite and Cable DVRs/PVRs,
and the experience of the many with hardware MPEG
PCI cards and UBS2 boxes. (Again, your belief in
the magical improvement and necessity of the video
spending some time as DV-AVI, before it is encoded
to DVD Compliant MPEG.)
Now I don;t expect you will find any noticeable
degradation in the video being single pass hardware
encoded to MPEG2 in your new camera, but from
all you have posted in the past, YOU should be
expecting it.
Google the following to refresh your memory:
PTravel "Ken Maltby" MPEG
With the retention of these threads, we can see
what Both of us said on these matters, that being
the case, you might have thought twice before
turning the discussion in this direction.
Luck;
Ken
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