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Re: WMA gets taken Down By The River

Posted by Jack on 12/01/07 05:54

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in
news:sMqdnY61IZu4ls3anZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@comcast.com:

> "Jack" <jack@beanstalk.net> wrote in message
> news:13kv43li2b63l90@corp.supernews.com
>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in
>> news:NaidneXYer06NNPanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> Where are the results of your DBTs?
>>>
>>> Anybody can write poetry. Real men can hear differences
>>> in blind tests, or admit they can't.
>>
>> Real men? If you listen to the WMA file you'll hear that
>> no blind tests are needed in this case.
>
> Jack, real men can read and obviously you can't. I posted the results
> of my blind tests with Steven's files on 11/28. That was two days ago.
> Where are yours?
>
> All I did is transform Stephen's coded files back into .wav files with
> standard software and compare those .wav files adn the original .wav
> file with some well-known free software that is pointed to by links at
> www.pcabx.com .
>
> BTW, blind tests comparing .wav files to coded files are slam-dunk
> easy. Please see www.pcabx.com and the Hydrogen Audio forums for more
> information.

It looks like you're trying to market something that's not pertinent to
this example. Pomposity isn't much of a sales technique, either.

>> I already described in detail what the artifacts are.
>
> No Jack, you just posted some poetry.

Is your agenda to argue for the sake of argument? Listen to the files
already. Here they are, properly named now.

http://www.badongo.com/file/5372691 (Down By The River 3:30-4:00 WAV)
http://www.badongo.com/file/5372700 (Down By The River 3:30-4:00 WMA)
http://www.badongo.com/file/5372709 (Down By The River 3:30-4:00 MP3)

When something sounds that much off, ABX or ABC or ABD is not needed.

You started off inexplicably assuming I'm opposed to blind testing, when I
hadn't made a single comment on it. I'm all for blind testing if there are
subtle differences, but that's not the case here. Are you of the mind that
the whole world is against ABX by default? "Anti-ABX conspiracy rocks the
metro area!"

> But of course Jack you're always right and people like Steven and I
> are always wrong, and the fact that all of this technology was
> developed with blind tests means nothing to you...

You're tilting at windmills. Listen to the dadburned files! I just closed
my eyes and heard the difference even better. The MP3 is significantly
cleaner than the WMA, which isn't usually the case with those formats at
128 kbps.

Jack

 

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