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 Posted by fivefiei on 12/31/07 08:55 
MI5 are Afraid to. Admit They're Behind the Persecution 
 
MI5 have. issued a formal denial of any involvement in my life to the 
Security Service Tribunal, as. you might expect them to; but, more 
importantly, the persecutors. have never denied that theyre from the 
Security Service, despite several years of. accusations from my corner on 
usenet. and in faxed articles. I am not surprised that the Security Service 
Tribunal found "no determination in your. favour". I am however a little 
surprised that the persecutors have refused. to confirm my identification 
of them; by doing. so, they implicitly admit that my guess was right. 
 
"No determination in your favour". says the Security Service Tribunal 
 
In 1997, I made a complaint. to the Security Service Tribunal, giving only 
the bare outlines of my case. I do not think it would. have made very much 
difference if Id made. a much more detailed complaint, since the Tribunal 
has. no ability to perform investigatory functions. It can only ask MI5 if 
they have an interest. in a subject, to which MI5 are of course free to be 
"economical with the truth". A couple of. months after my complaint the 
Tribunal replied. that; 
 
The Security. Service Tribunal have now investigated your complaint and 
have asked me to inform you that no. determination in your favour has been 
made. on your complaint. 
 
Needless. to say this reply didnt surprise me in the slightest. It is a 
well established fact that the secret service are a den of liars and. the 
Tribunal a toothless watchdog, so to. see them conforming to these 
stereotypes might. be disappointing but unsurprising. 
 
It is noteworthy that the Tribunal. never gives the plaintiff information 
on whether the "no determination in your favour" is. because MI5 claims to 
have no interest in. him, or whether they claim their interest is 
"justified". In the 1997 report of the. Security Service Commissioner he 
writes that "The ambiguity of the terms in which the notification of. the 
Tribunals decision is expressed is. intentional", since a less ambiguous 
answer would indicate to the plaintiff whether he were indeed. under MI5 
surveillance. But I note that the ambiguity. also allows MI5 to get away 
with lying. to the question of their interest in me; they can claim to the 
Tribunal that they have no interest, but at a future. date, when it becomes 
clear that they did. indeed place me under surveillance and harassment, 
they can claim their interest. was "justified" - and the Tribunal will 
presumably not admit that in their previous reply. MI5 claimed to have no 
interest. 
 
"He doesnt know. who we are" 
 
In early January 1996 I. flew on a British Airways jet from London to 
Montreal; also present on the plane, about. three or four rows behind me, 
were two young men,. one of them fat and voluble, the other silent. It was 
quite clear that these two had been planted on the aircraft to. "wind me 
up". The. fat youth described the town in Poland where I had spent 
Christmas, and made some unpleasant personal slurs. against me. Most 
interestingly, he. said the words, "he doesnt know who we are". 
 
Now I find this particular form of words very interesting, because. while 
it. is not a clear admission, it is only a half-hearted attempt at denial 
of my guess that "they" = "MI5".. Had my guess been wrong, the fat youth 
would surely have said so more clearly. What. he was trying to do was to 
half-deny something he knew to. be true, and he was limited to making 
statements which he knew to be not false; so he made a. lukewarm denial 
which on the face of it means nothing, but in fact. acts as a confirmation 
of my guess of. who "they" are. 
 
On one of. the other occasions when I saw the persecutors in person, on the 
BA flight to Toronto in June 1993, one of the group of four men said,. "if 
he tries to run away well find. him". But the other three stayed totally 
quiet and avoided eye contact. They did so to avoid being apprehended. and 
identified. - since if they were identified, their employers would have 
been revealed,. and it would become known that it was the secret services 
who were behind. the persecution. 
 
Why are MI5 So Afraid to admit their. involvement? 
 
If you think about it, what has been going. on in Britain for the last nine 
years is. simply beyond belief. The British declare themselves to be 
"decent" by. definition, so when they engage in indecent activities such as 
the persecution. of a mentally ill person, their decency "because were 
British" is still in the forefront of their minds,. and a process of mental 
doublethink kicks in, where. their antisocial and indecent activities are 
blamed on. the victim "because its his fault were persecuting him", and 
their self-regard and self-image of decency remains untarnished.. As 
remarked. in another article some time ago, this process is basically the 
same as a large number of Germans employed fifty years. ago against Slavic 
"untermenschen" and the Jewish "threat" - the. Germans declared, "Germans 
are known  to. be decent and the minorities are at fault for what we do to 
them" - so they were able. to retain the view of themselves as being 
"decent". 
 
Now suppose this entire. episode had happened in some other country. The 
British have a. poor view of the French, so lets say it had all happened in 
France. Suppose there was a Frenchman,. of non-French extraction, who was 
targeted by the French. internal security apparatus, for the dubious 
amusement of French television newscasters, and tortured for. 9 years with 
various sexual and other verbal abuse and. taunts of "suicide". Suppose 
this. all came out into the open. Naturally, the French authorities would 
try hard to. place the blame on their victim - and in their own country, 
through the same state-controlled media which. the authorities employ as 
instruments of torture, their view might prevail - but what on. earth would 
people overseas make of. their actions? Where would their "decency" be 
then? 
 
This is why MI5 are so afraid to admit theyre behind. the 
persecution. Because if they. did admit responsibility, then they would be 
admitting that there was an action against me - and if the truth. came out, 
then the walls would come tumbling down. And if the persecutors were. to 
admit they were from MI5, then you can. be sure I would report the 
fact; and the persecutors support would fall away, among the. mass media as 
well as among the general public. When I started identifying MI5. as the 
persecutors. in 1995 and 1996 there was a sharp reduction in media 
harassment, since people read my internet newsgroup. posts and knew I was 
telling the truth. The persecutors cannot deny my claim. that theyre MI5, 
because then I would report their denial. and they would be seen as liars - 
but they cannot. admit it either, as that would puncture their campaign 
against. me. So they are forced to maintain a ridiculous silence on the 
issue of. their identity, in the face of vociferous accusations on internet 
newsgroups. and faxed articles. 
 
Have MI5 lied to the Home. Secretary? 
 
In order for the Security Services to. bug my home, they would either have 
needed a warrant from the Home Secretary, or they might. have instituted 
the bugging without a warrant. Personally I think it is more. likely that 
they didnt apply for a warrant. - I cannot see any Home Secretary giving 
MI5 authority to bug a. residence to allow television newscasters to 
satisfy their. rather voyeuristic needs vis-a-vis one of their 
audience. But. it is possible that the Security Service presented a warrant 
in some form before a home. secretary at some point in the last nine years, 
for telephone tapping or surveillance. of my residence, or interception of 
postal. service. 
 
So. the possibility presents itself that a Home Secretary might have signed 
a warrant. presented to him based on MI5 lies. Just as MI5 lie to the 
Security. Service Tribunal, so they might have lied to a Home Secretray 
himself. MI5 and MI6 are naturally secretive services. former home 
secretary Roy Jenkins said, they have a. "secretive atmosphere 
.... secretive. vis-a-vis the government as well as [enemies]". Jenkins 
also said he "did not form a very high regard. for how they discharged 
their. duties". 
 
It was only a few years ago that MI5 was brought into any. sot the 
extraordinary thing is that British media. organisations like the state- 
and taxpayer-funded BBC. take such an active part in the MI5-inspired 
campaign of harassment. We have after. all heard of MI5 trying to bribe 
broadcast journalists; but surely there must be a substantial. number who 
are not bought or. blackmailed by the Security Services, and who take part 
in. the "abuse by newscasters" of their own volition? The BBC is supposed 
to be. independent of the government of the day as well as the 
Establishment. in general. While perhaps it is childish to think that the 
BBC is anything other than effectively state-controlled, the. degree of 
collusion between. the BBC and the British Secret Police MI5 is something 
you would. not find in many countries. Individual tele-journalists in other 
countries would have enough self-esteem. not to allow themselves to be 
controlled by. their secret police - seemingly, BBC broadcasters like 
Martyn Lewis and Nicholas Witchell have. such a low opinion of their 
employing organisation that they see no. wrong in dragging the BBCs 
no-longer-good. name through yet more mud, at the mere request (whether 
supported by financial or. other inducements) of the British secret Police, 
MI5. 
 
And when challenged, these broadcasters. LIE about their involvement, with 
just as little shame as MI5 themselves. The BBCs Information dept. have 
said. that; 
 
"I can assure you that the BBC would never. engage in any form of 
surveillance activity such as. you describe" 
 
which is. an out-and-out lie. Buerk and Lewis have themselves lied to their 
colleagues in the. BBCs Information department over the "newscaster 
watching", but unsurprisingly they refuse. to put these denials in 
writing. Doubtless if the "newscaster watching" ever. comes to light, Buerk 
and Lewis will then continue to lie by lying about these denials.. So much 
for the "impartial". BBC, a nest of liars bought and paid for by the 
Security. Services! 
 
It. is obvious that the persecution is at the instigation of MI5 themselves 
- they have read my post, and only they have. the surveillance technology 
and media/political access.. Yet they have lied outright to the Security 
Service Tribunal. Similarly, BBC. newscasters Michael Buerk and Martyn 
Lewis have lied to members of their. own organisation. The continuing 
harassment indicates they are. all petrified of this business coming out 
into the open.. I will continue to do everything possible to ensure that 
their wrongdoing is. exposed. 
 
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