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Posted by Arny Krueger on 01/03/08 19:16
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fljbgb$98p$1@panix2.panix.com
> Arny Krueger <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote:
>> preliminary report for 2007 says that LPs continue to
>> decline.
> Definitely, yes.
Just trying to correct the OP's factual error.
> I'm not sure what the breakdown between
> audiophile and dance records are,
Nobody seems to know for sure. There does seem to be a correlation between
the modest rise during the first part of the past decade, and the rise of
"scratching".
I suspect that the current drop-off has several causes:
(1) Ready availibility of viable alternatives to partially destroying a LP
while playing it for dancing.
(2) Decrease in the size of the boomer and vinyl sentimentalist market as
aging and even the grim reaper take their toll.
> but it's important because there
> are two completely different and unrelated LP markets
> with no real crossover between them.
There is plenty of evidence that vinyl advocates attempted to conflate them
in order to create a pseudo-truth that the high fidelity market for vinyl
was exploding dramatically.
>>> And now you will see such things as USB conectible
>>> turntables on sale at places diverse as Costco.
>> Seems like they are being sold as tools for archiving
>> old LPs to CD-R.
> Yes, and the bad part about it is that they are such
> cheap junk, and so many people are using them believing
> that this is the best they can get out of LPs.
They look like plastic POS. I wonder how they actually perform. I wonder how
they would perform with a good cartrdige.
> We have a
> whole generation of kids now who think the Shure M44 is
> the best cartridge you can buy.
I suspect a M44 is a technological wonder compared to what you find in a
$129 all-in-1 USB turntable.
>>> It's a niche market, but there is a market for vinyl out
>>> there - and so many of the new LPs are pressed on heavy
>>> vinyl - the kind that was used in the 1960s' before the
>>> thin, lightweight, and easily warpable vinyl of the '70s
>>> came in during the oil shortage of that era.
>> Suggesting that LP sound quality was falling long before
>> the CD came on the scene
> Yes, but when LP was a mass-market format, the average
> buyer didn't care so much about sound quality as long as
> the discs didn't skip. The same way the average CD buyer
> is today. Consequently, we all have to put up with lousy
> sound on all formats....
Agreed that its not hard to make a bad-sounding recording in any
distribution format. Again, the vinyl bigots tried to assert that any CD
sounded worse than the comparable LP because digital was so egregiously
inherently flawed.
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