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Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 01/07/08 22:02
In article <Zrwgj.1030$xA6.844@trndny09>,
Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
> > In article <_3wgj.4223$vX6.856@trndny05>,
> > Derek Janssen <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >>
> >>>Derek, we're not talking about the profile issue here. We are
> >>>discussing the problems with new blockbuster movies that come out that
> >>>need a firmware upgrade to allow the movie to play at all, or play
> >>>reasonably.
> >>>
> >>>Think Pirates of the Caribbean. Virtually none of the players that
> >>>hadn't had firmware upgrades would load it. There are others.
> >>
> >>Yeah, I remember those days, too.
> >>
> >>Oh, and if you're going to throw that YouTube video in my face, I just
> >>happened to have rented POTC2 last night--as it just so conveniently
> >>happens by circumstance--on a freshly 2.10 upgraded PS3:
> >>Loaded in 10 seconds, played Liar's Dice without a single hitch, won
> >>three games, and finally figured out the darn scene in the movie...Any
> >>more strolls down Format-War Memory Lane?
> >>
> >>Derek Janssen (but they won't work out of the BOX!--The industry is
> >>DOOMED!...DOOMED, I tells ya!)
> >>ejanss1@verizon.net
> >
> >
> > Oh, please, Derek. You don't think the loading issues are over do you?
> > The next big Disney flick will probably introduce some new super-duper
> > menuing crapola that just has to be there, but that nothing but a PS3
> > will load.
>
> Let's see, you're referring to the Profile 2.0 capabilities that Disney
> plans to put in on "Finding Nemo", and which Sony has already announced
> to upgrade to the PS3 by the end of April at the latest--
No, not specifically. I was literally just talking about all the
whiz-bang BD-Java coding that too many seem enamored with. All too many
blockbusters have required firmware upgrades to the standalones to load
them.
>
> > Oh, sure, next month, two months, ANNOUNCED...They'll promise you
> > *anything*
> > some time in the future, just so long as they can stringing their
> > customers along!
>
> (There, did I save you the trouble of posting?) ;)
> >
> > 2. Stability of machines & software. This constant firmware upgrade
> > thing has to disappear for the mass market. Joe6p just will not
> > tolerate nor understand why or how to do this.
>
> Um...show me one of these "Great Unwashed J6P Who Doesn't Know How To
> Tie His Shoes, and Drools On His Peanut Butter Sandwiches" (y'know, the
> one who was going to save HD because, like, the players were so cheap at
> Wal-Mart?)--
> Because the more of them you're starting to make up to dream up some
> world in which "our side" still wins, the more snotty and condescending
> it's starting to get...Yeah, don't expect to come over and babysit *my*
> kids anytime soon.
>
> Me, out of three possible reasons, I bought the PS3 over all the players
> BECAUSE none of the other standalones, even Sony's own, responded to
> firmware updates quite as chameleonically--
> I'm the guy who has Software Update auto-running every week on his Mac,
> because he's too darn stingy to buy a new computer until the old one
> falls apart, and I'm sure Imaginary Joe Shortbus Who Forgets To Breathe
> shares some form of the same sentiment:
> It's the "You can make it anything!" factor that MAKES the PS3 better
> than the SDP300 boxes, and someone at Sony should take notes.
>
> Derek Janssen (Stinginess is good...It's related to Greed.)
> ejanss1@verizon.net
The PS3 is the oddity of the bunch. It is more computer than BD player,
and with its built-in networking, updates are a snap. But the
standalones mostly don't have ethernet and none have wireless, so the
user has to go to the website, download an update, burn the CD/DVD and
do the update. J6P ain't gonna put up with that, hell I know a lot of
people that CAN do it, and wouldn't put up with it. To many, all those
firmware upgrades mean one thing, it AIN'T READY TO BUY!
Speaking of the Mac, do you know how to do a firmware update from Sony?
It is an EXE file you know? The question always comes up on AVSforums
from mac users. I know how to do it, but it is apparent that many don't.
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