Posted by Bill Fright on 01/12/16 11:53

riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
> Bob Ford wrote:
>
>>On 21 Jul 2006 22:36:12 -0700, riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>William Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <1153493202.410834.326570@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ty Ford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:31:52 -0400, riclanders@gmail.com wrote
>>>>>>(in article <1153485112.655687.178680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm hearing the Senneiser 300 is a great mike except for its delicate
>>>>>>>>cable which is prone to go bad if stretched.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there a similar quality mike with a more durable cable for under
>>>>>>>>$200?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>May be able to answer my own question here. The Rode video mic at $149.
>>>>>>>seems to be a much better deal and the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID at $199.
>>>>>>>seems to be better yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you do a lot of run and gun shooting, the VideoMic will wiggle audibly.
>>>>>>If
>>>>>>shooting on a tripod or slow handheld, it's very nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ty Ford
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>What about the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID?
>>>>>
>>>>>ric
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
>>>>>>stuff are at www.tyford.com
>>>>
>>>>ric
>>>>
>>>>We're all trying to be gentle and kind here, but it's difficult because
>>>>you keep trying to get us to validate something we're just not
>>>>comfortable validating.
>>>>
>>>>In my seminars, one typical audience ³light bulb moment is when I do the
>>>>following exercise.
>>>>
>>>>I'd get the audience to close their eyes - then I'd announce ³Hi, my
>>>>name is Bill Davis and I've been making video professionally for more
>>>>than 15 years.
>>>>
>>>>Then I'd ask them to open their eyes and I'd silently mouth the words ³I
>>>>live in Scottsdale, Arizona on an old horse property the barn of which
>>>>I've converted into a purpose-built video production studio
>>>>
>>>>Then I'd ask them to tell me which ³presentation mode they got the most
>>>>information out of. AUDIO without VIDEO or VIDEO without AUDIO.
>>>>
>>>>The point is that in most typical videos the AUDIO track actually does
>>>>more of the communications ³heavy lifting than does the VIDEO.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to rest that component of your work on an inexpensive mic
>>>>with a suspect cable, hey man, you go right ahead.
>>>>
>>>>Its simply that most of us would NEVER consider any mic that didn't have
>>>>a long, solid, verifiable track record of performance in actual field
>>>>conditions in these circumstances.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe the RODE gizmo is the next great field production mic and we just
>>>>don't know about it. Or maybe it's a fragile gizmo with a 100% margin,
>>>>lots of marketing bucks, and no place in any videographers bag. We don't
>>>>know, because we haven't used it and likely NEVER WILL use it. Because
>>>>our time and work is too important for trial and error and there are
>>>>already time tested products that we KNOW work correctly.
>>>>
>>>>You want to try it out. Go right ahead. If you and a couple of dozen
>>>>other guys start raving about it, it MIGHT earn a place in our bags -
>>>>provided one of our EV-635s or Beyer M-58s or Sony 672s or one of the
>>>>other couple of dozen mics that we've all had knocking around in our
>>>>bags and that are still working flawlessly after 15 or 20 years without
>>>>a failure gets run over by a road grader or something.
>>>>
>>>>Nothing wrong with asking these kind of questions.
>>>>
>>>>Nothing wrong with not taking the answers and doing it your own way,
>>>>either.
>>>>
>>>>You want to learn though your own trial and error - have at it.
>>>>
>>>>Most of us had to at some point.
>>>>
>>>>Welcome to the club.
>>>
>>>Not to put too fine a point on on it, but the people at Dvcreators.net
>>>have now think the
>>>RODE Videomic at $149 offers more value than the Senneiser 300 at
>>>$199. They, in fact, no longer recommend the Senneiser 300.
>>>
>>>Is your point I should ignore this and select the Senneiser 300 over
>>>the Rode anyway?
>>>
>>>ric
>>
>>My Gawd man, how many different people and how many different ways
>>does someone have to say it to you.
>>If you have your heart set on it, buy it.....
>>
>>Bob Ford
>>Images In Motion
>>www.imagesinmotion.com
>
>
>
> When question, Bob: Are you off your medication again or is it just
> that time of the month?
>
> ric
>

well it looks like the amature just burned his trial membership with the
experienced players. Actually I thought you guys treated ric pretty well
considering he didn't appear to actually understand anything you guys wrote.

bill

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