Posted by PTravel on 10/23/07 23:55

"Frank" <frank@nojunkmail.humanvalues.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:47:21 -0700, in 'rec.video.production',
> in article <Re: Starting to think about HD>,
> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"David McCall" <mccallmail@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:yxrTi.11767$na2.6887@trndny08...
>>>
>>> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "David McCall" <mccallmail@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You are the last person I would think would say that you don't
>>>>> know what Sony is thinking when it comes to rights protection :-)
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it's a rights issue, so much as a technological one. My
>>>> BDS300 BluRay player struggles with SD DVD-Rs. I suspect, like the
>>>> early
>>>> standard definition DVD players, the early model BluRay players simply
>>>> have trouble reading dye-based DVDs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ultimately we went with HD-DVD and it worked out very well. The total
>>>>> time was pretty short so we were able to burn to a standard DVD-R
>>>>> using a standard DVD burner. We got the 3 players for under $500.
>>>>> The best part was that we were able to fade to the logo at the end of
>>>>> each segment then jump to a menu that was the same logo image
>>>>> (no buttons).
>>>>
>>>> Do I understand you to be saying that you burned standard definition
>>>> DVDs
>>>> and played them on standard definition DVD players that upscale to HD?
>>>> I
>>>> suppose I can do that, but I'd really prefer an all-HD delivery
>>>> solution.
>>>> I've done a search for BluRay burners -- they're still in the $400-700
>>>> range, so I'm going to wait. Finished projects can be archived to tape
>>>> (or even cheapie external eSata drives) for now.
>>>>
>>> I'm sorry that I wasn't clear.
>>>
>>> As it turns out, you can make an HD-DVD using ordinary DVD-Rs and
>>> burner.
>>> It is some what limited in terms of how long the piece can be, but it
>>> will
>>> play
>>> in an HD-DVD player at full 1080. You need software that knows how to do
>>> HD-DVDs, We used Final Cut Studio 2, but I think current versions of
>>> Encore
>>> and Vegas will do it too.
>>>
>>> We bought an open box HD-DVD player for around $200 and 2 more for the
>>> client to take to Germany for the show at $250. It was a much better
>>> solution.
>>> Not all HD-DVD players could keep up with our disc (even in the same
>>> line).
>>> Perhaps we could have upped the compression a bit. However for this
>>> project
>>> it was a stunning success for very short bucks.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>>Ah, I see. My Sony BluRay will play these. Thanks.
>
>
> These two articles (two Web pages each, four Web pages total)
> summarize the current state of affairs regarding HD DVD and Blu-ray
> "at-home" disc burning.
>
> Format Wars: HDV Output, Part 1 (October 8, 2007)
> http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/format_war_hdv_part1_100807/
>
> Format Wars: HDV Output, Part 2 | Burning to Blu-ray (October 22,
> 2007)
> http://digitalcontentproducer.com/hdhdv/depth/format_war_hdv_part2_102207/
>
> It's probably worth mentioning that for many people, their method for
> playing HD DVD discs is to use the Microsoft Xbox 360 HD DVD player
> option and for Blu-ray discs it's the Sony PS3 (PlayStation 3) with
> its built-in BD player.

Thanks! The articles clarified a lot of questions that I had. I use
Encore, which should permit me to burn BDMV disks and, apprently, it works
well with the LaCie burner which is both the least expensive burner and also
works as an external drive. This gets around my Sony as BluRay playback
device as I've already got one of my computers connected to my home theater
via HDMI (actually DMI to HDMI). This way, I can play back the disks I burn
in the LaCie until I replace the Sony player with something that can handle
BDMV.

>
> --
> Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
> [Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
> Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
> (also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).

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