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Posted by Major ChrisB on 10/10/05 17:09
"higgy" <higgyslacker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Major ChrisB" wrote:
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>> MAJOR SPOILER AT THE BOTTOM!!!!
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>> "Jason N" <news@REMOVETHISTOREPLYjnewt.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1128903067.29106.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>>> Major ChrisB wrote:
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>>>> Ah I thought Objects In Space was unaired too. Thats my favourite
>>>> followed by Out Of Gas and The Message.
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>>> Objects In Space was definitely aired. That and Out Of Gas are my
>>> favourite episodes.
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>>>> I'm sure the reviews and everything, and hopefully a golden globe
>>>> nomination for Writing and Effects for Joss (if not an oscar) will
>>>> help universal commission another movie...if it doesn't I'm sure the
>>>> dvd sales will. I dont doubt this film will make more on dvd than
>>>> it did at the theatres and It'll make back it's $40million in US, UK
>>>> and Australian makets alone I think....and I'd imagine it'll do good
>>>> business in Asia too.
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>>> Universal have apparantly said that $80 million is the target for
>>> them to consider a sequel. That isn't looking good right now. Just
>>> read that the estimated takings for the US after this weekend are $18
>>> million. It's a real shame it isn't doing better. Unfortunately
>>> quality counts for nothing these days. Replace Nathan Fillion with
>>> Tom Cruise and it would be a smash hit. Not that I'd have gone to see
>>> it.
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>>> DVD sales do make up a lot of a movie's profits these days though.
>>> Given how well the Firefly DVD set sold, and how it is still selling,
>>> you'd have to think that Universal are going to make a lot from that.
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>>>> I've just saw it for the first time...got out the theatre about an
>>>> hour agao and I loved it...a few shocking moments and one i just
>>>> can't fathom the reason for and the rest of the movie was absolutly
>>>> amazing, acting, effects, dialogue was flawless. Absolutly excelent
>>>> movie...will be pre-ordering the dvd as soon as it's annouced!
>>>
>>> Rumour has it the region 1 DVD will be out on 20th December. No idea
>>> if that is true.
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>>> Feel free to add some spoiler space and tell me that moment you can't
>>> fathom the reason for. Having seen the movie three times I have been
>>> able to form some semi-coherent thoughts about it! I have a feeling I
>>> can guess which moment you mean, and if so I do actually understand
>>> why it was done.
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>> The death of book never bothered me at all, i know the actor wasn't up
>> for a big part in the movie and killing him was a good choice....what
>> I didn't get was the death of Wash. It served for some sadness and
>> about 30 seconds of shock and was really well done with the dinosaurs
>> from the series on the grave stone and things but I dont understand
>> why, if Joss invisions any future in movies or tv for Serenity, he
>> would get rid of Wash. He was the comedy relief...his character got
>> the most laugh out loud moments in the movie and he was one of my
>> favourite characters.
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>> In any other circumstances i would assume the actor wanted to go out
>> with a bang and move on to other things or had pissed someone off and
>> got killed off. But From watching the tv show and listening to
>> commentaries as well as reading interviews and thing about the show
>> and film i know for a fact than Alan Tudyk loved every single minute
>> of making Firefly and Serentiy, he's personal friends with Joss and
>> Nathan, if not others, and isn't exactly in huge demand for other
>> work. I can't fathom any earthy reason why they did it.
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> It was a shitty decision and one of the reasons I'm unsure whether I'll
> like Serenity when I finally get round to seeing it. In Whedon's shows
> the deaths only worked 60% of the time and had begun to get a little too
> predictable. It's like he spends time creating funny, engaging
> characters, then gets paranoid about everything being too "safe".
Well a lot of that theory came for Glenn Quin's death on Angel which Joss
claimed was intended from the start, make a character everyone loved and
have him killed....but many think this was cover so as not to make Quinn
look bad for having to fire him. It certainly seems more credible that it
was intended after killing off so many other characters in his shows...
> There's also the problem of how he often chooses characters in a
> relationship to kill off - always following some variation of the soapy
> "break-up, make-up, DIE" formula. You can actually see the beginnings of
> it in the last few episodes of Firefly - Zoe and Wash were arguing *a
> lot*.
>
> Anyway - haven't seen it yet, so I'll try not pre-judge (much)!
Well in terms of a single movie and a characters death it was brilliant and
very well done...esspecially considering who his wife was and what was
happening immediatly afterwards....but in terms of Joss hoping there would
be a sequal or any kind of TV followup it made no sense...
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