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Posted by TonyP on 01/22/06 16:30
Specs wrote:
> "TonyP" <arpierre@hooptonline.net> wrote in message
> news:s1fAf.2739$e9.248@fe12.lga...
>
>>Specs wrote:
>>>>yeah.... when people ask what I use to edit, I say Avid. They
>>>>automatically think "wow... he must be doing gteat work" because of the
>>>>name brand. For some customers, it doesn't matter how good you are, but
>>>>what you are using. Avid has the name recognition in the industry, and
>>>>looks good on my business card. A great marketing tool.
>>
>>>"For some customers, it doesn't matter how good you are, but what you are>
>>>using."
>>
>>>Highly insulting for those of us that take pride in our work.
>>>What a dickhead!!
>>
>>The customer? Not on your life. I get the job. If they are into name
>>recognition, that is their choice. It's called marketing. Because you
>>work with Avid, there is a perceived "quality" for whatever reason. I
>>have shown people what I have done with a/b roll and an Amiga Video
>>Toaster. They love it. And then they ask "what's an Amiga?".
>>As for calling some of my customers dickheads... that is your choice. I
>>hope you aren't as insulting to yours.
> It appears it is YOU that is into name recognition not your customers
> clearly evident from your following message to Nappy. To clarify, I was
> calling YOU a dickhead.
I have words I could express to you, but after reading your reply and
showing your obvious inability to use basic reading comprehension, I'll
pass.
> No I am not insulting to my customers at all and I certainly wouldn't insult
> their intelligence like you do by passing off a rebranded product as
> something other than it is. If it impresses Jack n Jill who's wedding video
> you're producing then good luck to you.
Whatever you call it, it is STILL Avid. Don't like it? That sounds like
a "personal" problem. When MS "observes" another company and use the
products but with MS label, it is MS. When another company buys another,
it becomes the product of that parent company. That's the way it goes.
And that is what it is. But you have a problem with that. Fine. I look
at the box and guess what it says. Also, if I need help, who do I call.
FAST (since it was orginally THEIR product)? Pinnacle (they bought
FAST)? OR..... Avid (who now OWNS Pinnacle and markets Liquid as AVID).
Sounds like a little jealousy here.
> There is a sea change happening across the broadcast media and the Avid
> brand is becoming synonymous with lack of value for money. I have used
> Avids for the last 5 yrs and have seen the competition (Apple and Adobe)
> rise from the ranks of jokers to very capable alternatives. The industry
> has wised up and doesn't really give a shit about the Avid brand like it
> used to. So sorry to shoot your myth of Avid down but that's all it is now,
> a myth.
Wow... 90% of Hollywood use it. I am sooooooo nervous! But, if you
weren't so blinded by your "rage", and read with comprehension, you
would really know how I feel. I clearly stated (but you conviently
either chose to ignore it or couldn't understand it) some people are
into name recognition and with that, have a perceived value attached to
it. They are not so much worried about the finished product because of
their preceived ideas of said editing software. Me, I have always said
that it is the editor that produces the video and the soft/hardware are
the tools. You can have the best tools, but that still doesn't make you
a carpenter.
But then, you have an agenda. Sorry to burst you little bubble.
I edit with an Avid product.
I feel so sorry for you, hating a product so much. Wow...
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