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Posted by Toby on 02/13/06 01:10
"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:42:02 -0500, Toby wrote
> (in article <43ef3ad8$0$41511$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>):
>
>>
>> "Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:grGdnVi8Wu8qn3PenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:04:04 -0500, Toby wrote
>>> (in article <43edee8b$0$69614$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>):
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mv@movingvision.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:19tE0xMyRL7DFw6j@movingvision.demon.co.uk...
>>>>> In message <11up6l9boh80aff@corp.supernews.com>, Richard Crowley
>>>>> <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> writes
>>>>>> <mv@movingvision.co.uk> wrote ...
>>>>>>> Been making programmes for TV and all sorts for over twenty years
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I've found the short shotgun Sennheiser such as the 416, K3 ME80 and
>>>>>>> K6
>>>>>>> ME88 to be the most useful and broad spectrum mics ever used. Never
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> a problem using them indoors or any other environment, even for the
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> quality demanding broadcasters and quite frankly I quickly learned
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> to invest my professional integrity in what they might say over at
>>>>>>> r.a.m.p.s. Their World is far from definitive!!
>>>>>>> -- John Lubran
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Lubran, we all respect you. It should make no
>>>>>> difference that the r.a.m.p.s people are listed in IMDB
>>>>>> as credited with hundreds of high-profile productions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever Richard, whatever.
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing this for 20 years, and the ME-80s and 416s have always
>>>> worked just fine. Maybe not the best of all possible worlds, but
>>>> they've
>>>> never let me down--it's always been good enough for TV, even some
>>>> fairly
>>>> high-class docos.
>>>>
>>>> Toby
>>>
>>> For interiors?
>>
>> Inside and outside. Again, I stress that we are generally looking for
>> intelligibility, not world-class feature-film sound. There is often no
>> time
>> to switch between mics when following a subject during her/his daily
>> routine. We go with a general-purpose mic, and the 416 is usually what we
>> use, although we used to go with the ME-80 + K3U power supply when the
>> cameras didn't have phantom powering.
>>
>> That has been the case with every network for whom I have worked --CNN,
>> CBS,
>> NBC, ABC, Reuters, BBC, ARD, ZDF, et al. Nobody bothers with
>> hypercardioids
>> in the conditions we work under.
>>
>> Toby
>
> Oh! News. That's different. That's not what we're talking about. News is
> run
> n gun survival mode. When you aren't jammed by your news situation and
> actually have time to set up properly, a hypercardioid for interiors (and
> by
> interiors I'm talking about office and residential spaces) a hyper is an
> audibly obvious winner.
>
> Regards,
This could be so, however I just finished some work for a very high-budget
doco-drama where all the interior interviews were miked with a 416. The crew
that came from Germany were loaded with equipment, but nobody thought it
necessary to pack along a hypercard. I'm also a musician, and I admit that I
prefer recording on a Neumann U87 to a Shure SM-58, and I don't think there
is any question that the 87 sounds better, but that doesn't mean that the 58
won't give decent results, especially on a low budget.
Toby
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