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Posted by FatKat on 03/29/06 20:10
Zombie Wolf wrote:
> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:1143658502.230572.120150@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
> >> But some of you still dont really get a handle on what's going on. the
> >> people on dsl have bought into the "hype" about dsl and how "high speed"
> >> it
> >> is, and think they can run 40 or 50 slots for uploads and downloads, when
> >> all they can really support is about 2 each way.
> >
> > That's strange - I have DSL and I'm sure I'd remember if I'd bought
> > some hype of late. Ofcourse, if I'd actually purchased the hype, it
> > wouldn't take long before I realized that even half as many slots may
> > be about 20 slots too many.
> >
> >> So there they are, churning along slower than a 56k , and you can't
> >> educate them.
> >> They simply wont listen.
> >
> > Most of them don't listen because they've leaving WinMX for Limewire.
> > Not even DC++, which at least looks decent - but Limewire. Strangely,
> > since Limewire's stock rose with the NG's Noobs, my UL/DL speeds have
> > skyrocked, and I'm seriously considering adding another dozen slots.
> >
> >> And a lot of isp's will quote their speeds in kiloBITS, to inflate their
> >> numbers and make you think they are fast, when the fact is, you have to
> >> divide that by 10 to get the actual speed. People also buy into this
> >> schtick, and run 40 or 50 slots.
> >
> > If that were so, I'd never be able to DL anything in a reasonable
> > amount of time - yet I've actually gotten about 3 DVD-R's worth of
> > stuff in the past 2 weeks.
> >
> >> Even the 56k guys, who ought to know better, will routinely try to run as
> >> much as 10 or 15 slots, when they are lucky if they can do a good job of
> >> supporting 1 each way.
> >
> > Having been a 56k guy in the past, I can't recall trying to support
> > anybody - dial-up inspires a sort of selfishness in that respect; get
> > that one DL now because you can always be cut-off.
> >
> >> Like I said, you cannot educate them, I have tried for years on irc to
> >> tell
> >> them, and they just dont listen.....
> >
> > It's hard to educate others with uneducated hype.
> >
> uneducated hype ? maybe you better look up what i just got done telling you.
> most dsl connections wont churn much beyond 40 k a second. now, if you run
> 40 slots up and 40 slots down, that leaves 1/2 k per second per slot. its
> simple math, my friend.
Maybe you need to re-read the above, my friend - you did more than
crunched numbers, instead claiming that DSL and dial-up users are
ignorant. That's the uneducated hype - in simple english.
>
> KILOBITS is a figure commonly used to state upload and download speeds. this
> is how many BITS per second the connection supports. 8 data bits and one
> start bit, and one stop bit, adds up to 10 bits for each BYTE (8 bits) of
> data. So you have to divide by 10 to get the ACTUAL speed in BYTES of the
> connection. 56 KILOBITS equals about 5.6 KILOBYTES per second. I know
> wherefore i am speaking here.... its your problem if you never learned
> anything about the subject.
It's your problem if you can't get your facts straight - if the problem
of ignorant users was as widespread as you suggest, nobody would be
able to move any amount of media in a reasonably short period.
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