|  | Posted by ~P~ on 04/18/06 03:05 
Jeff...
 Pixel response time has nothing to do with what this - you do get that don't
 you?  Flicker is not possible with LCD - period.  You don't have to believe
 it, but you shouldn't say it because it isn't accurate.
 
 Judder is possible - and is more an element of 24fps material that is shown
 on 60fps displays.
 
 Stairstepping is possible - and is an element of interlaced material being
 shown on progressive scan displays.
 
 But, while LCD flat panels have poor pixel response time, they will NOT
 flicker.  They never go 'off' unless told to - so no flicker is possible.
 
 Most of all:  What about LCD projection?  DLP projection?  LCoS?  None of
 those are nearly as slow as LCD flat panels in terms of response time, and
 none of them suffer from this issue either.  Of those, only plasma is
 phosphor based.
 
 But please - keep explaining it as magazines being inaccurate, manufacturers
 fudging specs, and LCDs refreshing to the same state they are already in.
 That'll eventually convince me that you are right - I'm sure. ;o)  Really -
 lighten up.
 
 
 "Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
 news:MPG.1eae0b4411a9593b98a483@news.nabs.net...
 Gene E. Bloch (spamfree@nobody.invalid) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
 > Two complete progressive scans, at 1/60 second each, equals 33 msec by
 > *my* math. Please show me how a 15 ms response time equates to two
 > complete progressive scans by *your* math.
 
 Who cares about two complete scans?  By the time the second scan is
 starting, *none** of the pixels have finished changing from the first scan.
 Thus, *every* pixel gets changed again before it finishes changing for
 the first time.
 
 In addition, some manufacturers fudge their specs (say it isn't so!) so
 that an LCD rated at 15ms can only achieve that in very specific
 circumstances (usually white to black or black to white).  Other changes
 can require more time...sometimes as much as twice as long.  If that's
 the case, then some pixels will get *two* new change requests before it
 finishes changing for the first time.
 
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