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Posted by NRen2k5 on 06/10/06 00:14
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <1149878363.565910.319810@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Obviously wrong because your market-speak is equally descriptive
>>>> of CD/MP3 players - it's not an all-in-one solution because you
>>>> need to buy the accessories to keep your iPod working - a skin, a
>>>> screen-cover, a recharger.
>>> You don't need any of those. The iPod recharges from the USB port
>>> on the computer,
>> Which doesn't explain what happens when the battery's life is over.
>> My CD player is 4 years old and still works fine.
>
> You sound as if you believe that the iPod is the only device with a
> built-in rechargeable battery. When the battery's life is over, you
> take the iPod to an authorized repair place and have the battery
> replaced.
You sound as if you believe that it's not worth pointing out just
because iPod isn't the only device like that.
> How much does your CD player weigh? How many tracks can you get on a
> CD? There are tradeoffs.
These are format tradeoffs, not design tradeoffs. The iPod has a weak
design.
Dodge attempt noted.
>>> and the other two are not needed at all to keep the iPod working.
>> They're just needed for that minority of iPod owners who actually
>> take their iPods out of the house, or out of the box for that matter.
>
> They are not needed for any iPod owner. *Not any!*
Oh no, of course not. They're only needed if you want to be able to play
your music after six months.
>>> Not that I know of, but a disk with iTunes is in the package for
>>> every iPod.
>> Which doesn't address the fact that it's another piece of the
>> so-called all-in-one package only neccessary for those who insist on
>> listening to an iPod.
>
> All-in-one; it comes in the same box--and in the case of the Macintosh,
> it comes with the computer.
Just what everybody needs, another bloated program to do a simple job.
Instead of a few hundred kilobytes of drivers.
>>>> With an MP3-CD player, all you need is your computer's file
>>>> manager.
>>> In other words, it won't work without a file manager.
>> Without a working file manager on your computer, standard to any
>> windows or MAC OS, the inability to play music files is the least of
>> your worries - I can live without iTunes.
>
> The point is that if you're going to download data (music, or any other
> kind) from a computer to a storage device, you're going to need software
> on the computer to do it. Whether it's part of the operating system, or
> an application is not important.
Yes, it is. I'll take a few hundred kb of drivers over a bloated
jack-of-all-trades-but-master-of-none program like iTunes any day.
>>> None of those are needed. The iPod, just as it ships, works just
>>> fine. The operative word in your paragraph is "enhance."
>> Which is to say that the skin and screen won't be scratched to hell -
>> enhanced must mean "roughly maintains the same physical condition and
>> function for at least 6 months after purchase" - the condition that
>> my CD player came with out of the box.
>
> Ooh, the case got a scratch--horrifying. That really adversely affects
> the functionality of the device. You want me to believe that in four
> years, your CD player doesn't have a single scratch on it?
So his CD player having one scratch justifies thousands of iPods'
displays being rendered unreadable by their scratches?
>>>> The point is that while you can't get iPod features elsewhere,
>>>> you CAN get practically the commensurate experience at a fraction
>>>> of the cost.
>>> And that's the reason that iPod has a 70%+ market share, right?
>> Gullible consumers - worked for Milli Vanilli, must do Apple a world
>> of good as well.
>
> Yeah, everyone is wrong but you. There were MP3 players on the market
> for years before the iPod came on the scene. And the iPod was more
> expensive than they were. And the iPod worked only with the Macintosh.
> Yet, in a few years, the iPod became the player of choice not only for
> Macintosh owners, but also for Windows owners. And you say it's because
> they're gullible?
Yes. Because Apple marketed their MP3 player the hardest.
>>>> Sure, must be my fault - always blame the customer. When
>>>> somebody has demonstrated that your product is uneccessary,
>>>> unlreliable and overpriced, and has shown you where you can the
>>>> same thing for less, it's obviously his fault.
>>> All MP3 players, portable CD players, portable cassette decks, etc.
>>> are unnecessary.
>> In terms of playing Mp3 or other music files?
>
> It terms of life.
So because they're unnecessary, it's okay to cheat and steal.
> By the way, what kind of "similar forms of hardware" can one purchase
> for $69 (US)?
What Apple hardware can one purchase for $69 (US)?
- NRen2k5
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