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Posted by Spex on 11/22/06 21:42
Mike Kujbida wrote:
>
> Spex wrote:
>> Mike Kujbida wrote:
>>> Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:37:02 +0000) it happened Spex
>>>> <No.spam@ta.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you work with DV footage throughout your workflow you really do
>>>>> shaft yourself. The 720x480 DV stream has really only about
>>>>> 520x400 (if that) lines of resolution at best with a colour
>>>>> resolution 4:1:1 for ntsc. Feed that into your DVD compressor
>>>>> which colour samples at 4:2:0 and it make mince meat of your
>>>>> footage. Incidentally DV PAL to SD DVD is better as the use a
>>>>> consistent colour sampling scheme of 4:2:0.
>>>> OK, I can agree with that.
>>>
>>> While I agree that the 4:1:1 part is brutal, especially during chroma
>>> keying, I use a JVC 550U camcorder (3 x 1/2" CCDs with an upgraded
>>> lens) and I usually get compliments on the visual quality on my work.
>>> Good lighting and camera work always shows through the limitations.
>>> BTW, I've shot 2 hr. plays at my kids school with this same camera
>>> and the resulting DVD quality has impressed me. The old saying GIGO
>>> (garbage in , garbage out) still holds true.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>> I didn't think we were discussing the competence of the person using
>> the equipment. Just the merits of down-conversion from HDV to DV at
>> various stages of the workflow.
>>
>> A c**t with a CineAlta is still a c**t.
>
>
> I certainly agree wit that.
> Before I take off for the long weekend, I just wanted to add that I wasn't
> making myself out to be a world class cinematographer (God knows I'm not!!).
> My point was that there is good miniDV gear and there is poor miniDV gear.
> I've seen amazing results with what some would consider poor gear and, as
> Spex said, I've also seen poor results with the best of gear.
> From a grateful Canadian, a very happy Thanskgiving weekend to my American
> friends.
>
> Mike
>
Have a good one!
I wasn't at all meaning you BTW. I've seen downright dreadful work with
high-end cameras and conversely sublime work on DV. Let's not get into
the habit of blaming tools. A good understanding of camera through to
final delivery can pay dividends.
We don't do thanksgiving so it'll be two nights down the pub as usual....
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