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Posted by Lloyd Parsons on 07/24/07 13:19
In article <p0vaa3htmfp6bsdpqdv3h4a8h1tbt85bhe@4ax.com>,
Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:45:56 -0700, unclejr <watsona@kenyon.edu> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 22, 3:17 am, Spurious Response
> ><SpuriousRespo...@cleansignal.org> wrote:
> >> Upconverted playback will hide some of the differences in some cases.
> >
> >Which is a lot cheaper of an option for me (the Oppo DV-970HD) than to
> >buy a BRD or HDDVD player and then double dip on the content with new
> >software.
> >
> >-Junior
>
>
> But your upconverted Std DVDs are NOT being delivered to you in HD.
>
> It's like printing a four color GIF file from the late eighties which
> comes from a 120 x 150 dpi source resolution on a 1600 dpi color printer.
>
> The resolution of the playback device still doesn't change the base
> level resolution of the original source data.
>
> You need to understand that concept.
>
> It's like viewing a tiny MPEG file blown up to full screen on a high res
> monitor. All the compression artifacts become MORE clear.
>
> So for hi res transfers like Kong Kong, etc. It MIGHT look better than
> on an older player. For the terrible Std Full Metal Jacket type
> transfers, however, it will be quite disappointing.
>
> I hear that the BluTurd release of The Fifth Element was a sad
> disappointment for consumers, and they say the superbit Std DVD version
> is better.
>
> I think the studios need to stop cutting corners on what they deliver
> to us as a product.
>
> We need:
>
> Pristine telecine sessions at high resolution.
>
> A decent, proper liner note in ALL releases (lazy fucks).
>
> Well done extras, also at higher resolution, not dropped back to jaggy
> crap to save disc space, there is PLENTY of disc space.
>
> If they are going to release quick done, no frills runs of a film, make
> it priced to match. Give consumers that simply want only the film what
> they want at a more reasonable price, you money grubbing assholes.
> They already made hundreds of millions on the film release in many cases.
>
> They don't need to string us along... down the path to wallet
> extraction with bullshit.
>
> The HD release of "The Forbidden Planet" is great!
>
> The Ultimate Collector's edition was touted as having a new transfer...
> etc., etc., etc., and the damned thing was packed with the same damned
> disc as the other release. SOOOOOOO LAME!
>
> So my Forbidden Planet spot(s) on my shelf are occupied by duplicates
> and the damned title cost me over $70!
You are correct that an upconverted video isn't as good as a hi def
original. At least for video freaks and such. ;-)
But for my eyes and tv, I have a problem telling the difference between
720p and 1080i on most disks so it isn't really an issue. I have both
HDDVD and BluRay and find that I'm more interested in the total
experience.
Is it theater like? Both audio and video come into play to make that
happen, the hi def disks both offer better audio to help with that.
As to Forbidden Planet. Well that is my all time favorite movie. Saw
it as a kid when it came out and have seen it in theaters as late as the
mid 70's. I'm waiting for either Netflix or BB to send me the hi def
version now.
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