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Posted by Ken Maltby on 11/04/07 19:40
"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:23lXi.1667$b%1.104@trnddc01...
>> I'm really glad to hear the good news Paul, and my prior gushing
>> enthusiasm hopefully now seems justified and doesn't seem induced by
>> drinking special Kool-Aid.
>
> I've drunk the Koo-Aid, too! ;)
>
> My post on dvinfo was sub-titled, "This can't be right" because lots of
> people whose opinion I respected, including you, though the HV20 was a
> terrific camera. It's interesting, though, that the combined default
> settings on the camera and my TV conspired to produce a seriously degraded
> image. These days, manufacturers are so concerned about the "OOBE" (out
> of box experience), that they do all sorts of things, like setting up
> sharpening, contrast and saturation, that may make the image appear
> appealing to naive consumers, but look awful to anyone with a little
> experience with video. I was very close to returning my HV20, and if I
> hadn't been fairly certain that the artifacts were the result of
> over-sharpening, I wouldn't have persisted and Canon would have lost a
> sale.
>
>>
>> On the subject of HDV editing, I want to mention that Premiere Pro
>> stumbles on machines which can otherwise do very competent and fast HDV
>> editing, and I would argue that a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a gig of RAM makes
>> an absolutely fine editing platform with some software. Vegas 8 is
>> actually pretty decent, and programs like VideoReDoPlus, a true bargain
>> in the same spirit as the HV-20, is quite awesome. Ulead VideoStudio Plus
>> version 11 is another cheapo wonder which handles HDV extremely well.
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> I'm afraid I'm commited to Premire Pro or, more accurately, to Adobe's
> products -- I like the tight integration between Premiere Pro, Photoshop
> and Encore. A bare-bones or entry-level editor also wouldn't work for
> me -- I do too much compositing, correction and other things that require
> the features of an advanced editor. Premiere Pro works very well on my
> laptop and I'm overdue for upgrading my desktop editing machine.
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>> If you are truly committed to running Premiere on a fast processor, for
>> my money I would definitely await until November 12th for the release of
>> the new Intel Penryn CPU, whose SSE4 instruction set speeds up video
>> encoding by at least a 2X or greater factor when the programs have been
>> written to use the new instructions. The current Core 2 Duo folks with
>> 6600s, 6700, and 6850 processors will be very unhappy when their Conroe,
>> Kentfield, and Woodcrest machines (including the 8 core MacPro Xenons)
>> suddenly seem to be running at glacial speeds, comparatively speaking.
>> Check out the "Skulltrail" links for more info. I assume that Premiere
>> and others will be updated to exploit the new SSE4 instruction set. The
>> DiVX encoder is already running SSE4 and is just blazing fast, a very
>> promising piece of news for those of us also interested in
>> AVC/h.264/AVCHD and all of the associated codecs.
>
> These look nice, but I usually buy technology that is 1 step behind the
> latest and greatest. This year, particularly, I have to do things on a
> budget, so I think a Core 2 Duo machine with a couple of gig of RAM should
> work just fine, particularly under XP (my laptop is running Vista
> Business -- don't ask. ;) ).
>
>>
>> Good luck with the new HV-20. And definitely check out the Canon hi def
>> wide angle converter.
>
> Thanks. The accessories I ordered yesterday were the Canon WA adapter, a
> UV filter, a polarizing filter, an extra extended-life battery and a quick
> charger.
>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Smarty
I should probably stay out of this thread, but here are
two thoughts. First "VideoReDo TVSuite" should be a
very helpful MPEG tool, no matter what editing or
authoring programs you may use. (Although there may
be some additional tweaking required of the new
features, the old functions will continue to work well
on HD material.)
Second; while the SSE4 may tip the balance in any
case, I would like to see what AMD is able to do, to
match or beat Intel's offering. Isn't competition great!
As one who has been accused of drinking MPEG
flavored "Kool-Aid", it's interesting to see how times
have changed.
Luck;
Ken
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