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Posted by PTravel on 11/04/07 20:10
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
> news:5p6cr8FpmdumU1@mid.individual.net...
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>> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>> news:23lXi.1667$b%1.104@trnddc01...
>>> I'm really glad to hear the good news Paul, and my prior gushing
>>> enthusiasm hopefully now seems justified and doesn't seem induced by
>>> drinking special Kool-Aid.
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>> I've drunk the Koo-Aid, too! ;)
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>> My post on dvinfo was sub-titled, "This can't be right" because lots of
>> people whose opinion I respected, including you, though the HV20 was a
>> terrific camera. It's interesting, though, that the combined default
>> settings on the camera and my TV conspired to produce a seriously
>> degraded image. These days, manufacturers are so concerned about the
>> "OOBE" (out of box experience), that they do all sorts of things, like
>> setting up sharpening, contrast and saturation, that may make the image
>> appear appealing to naive consumers, but look awful to anyone with a
>> little experience with video. I was very close to returning my HV20, and
>> if I hadn't been fairly certain that the artifacts were the result of
>> over-sharpening, I wouldn't have persisted and Canon would have lost a
>> sale.
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>>>
>>> On the subject of HDV editing, I want to mention that Premiere Pro
>>> stumbles on machines which can otherwise do very competent and fast HDV
>>> editing, and I would argue that a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a gig of RAM
>>> makes an absolutely fine editing platform with some software. Vegas 8 is
>>> actually pretty decent, and programs like VideoReDoPlus, a true bargain
>>> in the same spirit as the HV-20, is quite awesome. Ulead VideoStudio
>>> Plus version 11 is another cheapo wonder which handles HDV extremely
>>> well.
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>> I'm afraid I'm commited to Premire Pro or, more accurately, to Adobe's
>> products -- I like the tight integration between Premiere Pro, Photoshop
>> and Encore. A bare-bones or entry-level editor also wouldn't work for
>> me -- I do too much compositing, correction and other things that require
>> the features of an advanced editor. Premiere Pro works very well on my
>> laptop and I'm overdue for upgrading my desktop editing machine.
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>>> If you are truly committed to running Premiere on a fast processor, for
>>> my money I would definitely await until November 12th for the release of
>>> the new Intel Penryn CPU, whose SSE4 instruction set speeds up video
>>> encoding by at least a 2X or greater factor when the programs have been
>>> written to use the new instructions. The current Core 2 Duo folks with
>>> 6600s, 6700, and 6850 processors will be very unhappy when their Conroe,
>>> Kentfield, and Woodcrest machines (including the 8 core MacPro Xenons)
>>> suddenly seem to be running at glacial speeds, comparatively speaking.
>>> Check out the "Skulltrail" links for more info. I assume that Premiere
>>> and others will be updated to exploit the new SSE4 instruction set. The
>>> DiVX encoder is already running SSE4 and is just blazing fast, a very
>>> promising piece of news for those of us also interested in
>>> AVC/h.264/AVCHD and all of the associated codecs.
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>> These look nice, but I usually buy technology that is 1 step behind the
>> latest and greatest. This year, particularly, I have to do things on a
>> budget, so I think a Core 2 Duo machine with a couple of gig of RAM
>> should work just fine, particularly under XP (my laptop is running Vista
>> Business -- don't ask. ;) ).
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>>>
>>> Good luck with the new HV-20. And definitely check out the Canon hi def
>>> wide angle converter.
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>> Thanks. The accessories I ordered yesterday were the Canon WA adapter, a
>> UV filter, a polarizing filter, an extra extended-life battery and a
>> quick charger.
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Smarty
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> I should probably stay out of this thread, but here are
> two thoughts. First "VideoReDo TVSuite" should be a
> very helpful MPEG tool, no matter what editing or
> authoring programs you may use. (Although there may
> be some additional tweaking required of the new
> features, the old functions will continue to work well
> on HD material.)
Helpful how? You're not suggesting that VideoReDo can do anything that
Premiere Pro can't, are you?
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> Second; while the SSE4 may tip the balance in any
> case, I would like to see what AMD is able to do, to
> match or beat Intel's offering. Isn't competition great!
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> As one who has been accused of drinking MPEG
> flavored "Kool-Aid", it's interesting to see how times
> have changed.
The problem was never mpeg, per se, but comparing DVD-compliant mpeg to
DV-codec-encoded avi, as well as the availability of tools for working with
it. There are no consumer or prosumer alternatives to temporally-encoded
high-def video, so it's either mpeg2 for HDV or mpeg4 for AVCHD.
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> Luck;
> Ken
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