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Posted by Ken Maltby on 11/04/07 20:12
"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>>> I'm really glad to hear the good news Paul, and my prior gushing
>>> enthusiasm hopefully now seems justified and doesn't seem induced by
>>> drinking special Kool-Aid.
>>
>> I've drunk the Koo-Aid, too! ;)
>>
>> My post on dvinfo was sub-titled, "This can't be right" because lots of
>> people whose opinion I respected, including you, though the HV20 was a
>> terrific camera. It's interesting, though, that the combined default
>> settings on the camera and my TV conspired to produce a seriously
>> degraded image. These days, manufacturers are so concerned about the
>> "OOBE" (out of box experience), that they do all sorts of things, like
>> setting up sharpening, contrast and saturation, that may make the image
>> appear appealing to naive consumers, but look awful to anyone with a
>> little experience with video. I was very close to returning my HV20, and
>> if I hadn't been fairly certain that the artifacts were the result of
>> over-sharpening, I wouldn't have persisted and Canon would have lost a
>> sale.
>>
>>>
>>> On the subject of HDV editing, I want to mention that Premiere Pro
>>> stumbles on machines which can otherwise do very competent and fast HDV
>>> editing, and I would argue that a 3 GHz Pentium 4 with a gig of RAM
>>> makes an absolutely fine editing platform with some software. Vegas 8 is
>>> actually pretty decent, and programs like VideoReDoPlus, a true bargain
>>> in the same spirit as the HV-20, is quite awesome. Ulead VideoStudio
>>> Plus version 11 is another cheapo wonder which handles HDV extremely
>>> well.
>>
>> I'm afraid I'm commited to Premire Pro or, more accurately, to Adobe's
>> products -- I like the tight integration between Premiere Pro, Photoshop
>> and Encore. A bare-bones or entry-level editor also wouldn't work for
>> me -- I do too much compositing, correction and other things that require
>> the features of an advanced editor. Premiere Pro works very well on my
>> laptop and I'm overdue for upgrading my desktop editing machine.
>>>
>>> If you are truly committed to running Premiere on a fast processor, for
>>> my money I would definitely await until November 12th for the release of
>>> the new Intel Penryn CPU, whose SSE4 instruction set speeds up video
>>> encoding by at least a 2X or greater factor when the programs have been
>>> written to use the new instructions. The current Core 2 Duo folks with
>>> 6600s, 6700, and 6850 processors will be very unhappy when their Conroe,
>>> Kentfield, and Woodcrest machines (including the 8 core MacPro Xenons)
>>> suddenly seem to be running at glacial speeds, comparatively speaking.
>>> Check out the "Skulltrail" links for more info. I assume that Premiere
>>> and others will be updated to exploit the new SSE4 instruction set. The
>>> DiVX encoder is already running SSE4 and is just blazing fast, a very
>>> promising piece of news for those of us also interested in
>>> AVC/h.264/AVCHD and all of the associated codecs.
>>
>> These look nice, but I usually buy technology that is 1 step behind the
>> latest and greatest. This year, particularly, I have to do things on a
>> budget, so I think a Core 2 Duo machine with a couple of gig of RAM
>> should work just fine, particularly under XP (my laptop is running Vista
>> Business -- don't ask. ;) ).
>>
>>>
>>> Good luck with the new HV-20. And definitely check out the Canon hi def
>>> wide angle converter.
>>
>> Thanks. The accessories I ordered yesterday were the Canon WA adapter, a
>> UV filter, a polarizing filter, an extra extended-life battery and a
>> quick charger.
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Smarty
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>
> I should probably stay out of this thread, but here are
> two thoughts. First "VideoReDo TVSuite" should be a
> very helpful MPEG tool, no matter what editing or
> authoring programs you may use. (Although there may
> be some additional tweaking required of the new
> features, the old functions will continue to work well
> on HD material.)
>
> Second; while the SSE4 may tip the balance in any
> case, I would like to see what AMD is able to do, to
> match or beat Intel's offering. Isn't competition great!
>
> As one who has been accused of drinking MPEG
> flavored "Kool-Aid", it's interesting to see how times
> have changed.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
P.S. One other thought; It is likely that there were many
choices made to find the hardware and software that
worked best with your existing equipment/software. What
was found to be best, over a long period, probably
involving a great number of small choices, all predicated on
compatibility with an existing setup, may no longer be the
best when there is any radical change. You may find many
small adjustments in your existing settings, will be needed
over time, to get the most out of a changed setup. This may
be even more traumatic, if changes in your workflow are
required, depending on how "set in your ways" you may be.
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