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Posted by TonyP on 01/24/06 02:52
Specs wrote:
>>So.. you are saying that ALL products from any company HAVE to share or
>>be simliar? Have you even looked at the interface? Oh... I thought so.
>>And.. when you run the program, what name do you see? Oh, but you
>>haven't run the program. That's a laugh. \
>>Again, it is Avid whether you like it or not. Avid OWNS it, markets it,
>>supports it, and .... get ready for this one, puts it's name on the
>>product. So... it makes it an Avid. Live with it.
> So I take it you cannot find any similarities between Liquid and a real Avid
> product then? Just the splash screen and the box it is then. I thought you
> might at least have pointed out the product support for Liquid and Avid
> products are equally inept. I'll make it easy for you. List the
> differences between Pinnacle Liquid 6.x and Avid Liquid 7.
You can do that yourself. And there are differences. But, you really
don't want to know that. It is Avid.
>
> For someone who isn't concerned about name dropping you give all the
> impressions of being obsessed by the Avid name. Do you call yourself an
> Avid editor now? LOL.... I can understand why you are pleased that Liquid
> has been rebranded. I mean, the embarrassment of being a Pinnacle user must
> have hard to be taken seriously even in the wedding community.
You are the one with the obsession. I am just taking you to task on it.
Telling you that it is an AVID product. It is you that keeps on harping,
complaining, etc. saying it isn't. Well, again, I hate to inform you, it
is an Avid. As for name dropping. Not my thing. It's sad that you have
to continue on this way in public. Embarrassing.
>>Wonderful for you. I am soooooo glad that you don't have to use Avid. I
>>am sure that Avid is loosing sleep over this... ;)
> Having been a regularly contributing member of the Avid support forum for
> several years and I know the feeling of the community. I have seen several
> other members get frustrated at the lack of development and leave for other
> products. They could just be bullshitters but I doubt if all of them were.
> I suggest you stop by the Avid support forums and guage the feeling of some
> loyal users. After last years NAB there was open and hostile attacks for
> Avid's lack of development of Xpress Pro when companies like Apple were
> releasing significant upgrades to their products. Same again after the
> Adobe announcement. No Avid might not be losing sleep but they are losing
> customers, business and at the very least good will.
Sorry to hear about the Avid problems. I can not speak on them. I can
speak on Avid Liquid (and yes, it is different than 6.1).
>>As for the koolaid drinkers.. you know this for sure?? HMMmmmmmm? Or..
>>are you just "shooting from the lip". So, you are trying to say that
>>Avid does not hold the marketshare in Hollywood?
> Clearly there is a big difference between saying 90% of Hollywood uses DS
> Nitris to on the other hand saying 90% of Hollywood uses an Avid product
> somewhere during the production of a film. What do you actually mean? When
> you say 90% of Hollywood do you mean 90% of Hollywood films or 90% of
> Hollywood production companies use Avid? If you can decide what the 90%
> statistic is actually referring to we'll be able to determine whether the
> claim holds true. The owness is on you to define what the 90% is actually
> referring to. At the moment you are the one who is "shooting from the lip"
> so to speak. Define and substantiate the claim....
Sure.. the numbers aren't broken down into specifics. It could mean
Avids used in many forms of production. To deny Avid's penetration in
Hollywood is to deny the truth. Are there problems in "paradise"? From
what I have read, yes. Is Avid going to work on this? I would think so.
With the aquisition of Pinnacle, it appears that they do have a
marketing plan. Pinnacle's consumer line of NLE's are the most popular.
With the addition of Liquid, they have a mid-range "affordable" product
that can compete in it's price range.
> Microsoft could easily claim "100% of Hollywood uses Microsoft" but
> they wouldn't be suggesting Hollywood uses Windows Movie Maker would they?
But they would be using their OS for some of the work.
>>As for Hollywood using Liquid.. as far as I know, it isn't. Never said
>>they did. I said AVID. Must be that reading comprehension thing.... or
>>blind "rage" on your part.
> What's all this blind rage? Hey calm down you are the one using CAPS.
I am using caps to make a point. Avid Liquid is an Avid product. It
works for me and many others that have used it. You on the other hand
came with the ad homenin attacks and blantantly saying that it is not an
Avid product. Well, call it what you want. It says Avid. Does it make
anyone a better editor? No. I have stated that before. It isn't the
product but the person. Someone asks what I use, I tell them. You said
it was a lie. Then continued along that line. There was no lie on my
part. No deception. I only stated that some people (customers) are more
interested in what you use. You have used inuendos throughout. So, I
replied.
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